[Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
Hello, So I've been thinking: a big problem with the Me Menu comes from the fact that there is not an universally recognized word for the act of microblogging. There are tweets, dents, and Facebook made the rather poor choice of using status updates (increasing the confusion with IMs) One thing

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 10:19 +0200, Conscious User wrote: One thing that is universal, though, is how they are displayed: picture on the left, message to the right with the name in bold. So why not take advantage of the familiarity of this layout to make the purpose of the broadcasting field

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:36, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 10:19 +0200, Conscious User wrote: One thing that is universal, though, is how they are displayed: picture on the left, message to the right with the name in bold. So why not take advantage of the

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:19, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: See the attached mockup. great mockup, Conscious!! One of the reactions to the mockup will be we don't have the menu item for customizing About Me anymore. Well, quite frankly, it is a Preferences-like item.

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:33, David Hamm davidth...@gmail.com wrote: had to throw this out there before it slipped my mind, but one of the disadvantages to the design I proposed was that it takes a few to many clicks to tweet. Which is of course quite a problem considering the target

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialo gs without user input”

2010-06-29 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kristoffer Lundén wrote on 21/06/10 21:12: 2010/6/21 Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com So how do you define started doing something else? Something else is mouse and/or keyboard activity in an other application. So how do you define

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
I think this does quite a lot for clearing up the purpose of that field. But if you just look at that without prior/external knowledge, you still would have to ask: Say where? To whom? I agree. In fact, seconds after sending the mockup I wondered if it wouldn't confuse users into thinking it

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
Yes, the broadcast field is certainly a learnable feature in the MeMenu. It will make publishing your current thought to the world very comfortable, i'm sure. But please somebody help me understand why i have a field to publicly log my thoughts next to IM presence status settings, while i

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Luke Benstead
On 29 June 2010 12:21, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: Yes, the broadcast field is certainly a learnable feature in the MeMenu. It will make publishing your current thought to the world very comfortable, i'm sure. But please somebody help me understand why i have a field

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Remco
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 13:40, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, once the implementation is complete things will be a lot better, but I think we can simplify the menu a bit more. I think we should have a divider between the social networking stuff, and the IM statuses as they are

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Remco
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 14:51, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote: I also changed the Custom Status menu entry into a text box. That makes it even more clear that the top text box is for social networking, and not setting status. This changes/simplifies the way you set custom statuses: you first

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
I still think it's unclear what that text box does. I made a quick mockup which adds some text to the text boxes, explaining what they are supposed to do. This text goes away when the text box is activated. The social networking text box says Post Twitter message... when the Twitter icon is

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Remco
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 15:04, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: I still think it's unclear what that text box does. I made a quick mockup which adds some text to the text boxes, explaining what they are supposed to do. This text goes away when the text box is activated. The social

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Igor Vatavuk
Hi, ayatana list! Perhaps the text above the text-box should be in the form of a question, similar to how Facebook, Identica and Twitter ask. What's on your mind? or something like that. Since Me-menu shows the text-box only after account details have been entered, we can assume that the users

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-29 Thread David Hamm
both of those sound good, especially pinning now that it's taking off. Basically my thinking is one should be able to tweet just as fast as they can contact sally. But then again fishbowl id say failed so it is simpler to in some regards to just have the broadcast and have everything else online.

Re: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing - where does the problem lie?

2010-06-29 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/28 Frederik Nnaji frederik.nn...@gmail.com would resizing in a grid not help with all this? It would be easier to snap application windows to each other this way. It would also make resizing faster in general as far as i can imagine. A grid is an interesting idea, especially if we

Re: [Ayatana] Me Menu - Review

2010-06-29 Thread James Putt
On 28 June 2010 09:10, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: Le dimanche 27 juin 2010 à 21:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth a écrit : On 23/06/10 14:37, Conscious User wrote: If I understood correctly, James was suggesting *keeping* the panel monochromatic but giving colors to the MeMenu

Re: [Ayatana] How Mozilla does community-driven open source design

2010-06-29 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Mozilla's approach to community-driven design is exactly the same as Ubuntu's: solicit ideas and implementations from all and sundry, then take an opinionated decision on which to include by default. Where Mozilla succeed better is that: 1. They solicit ideas more actively using their

Re: [Ayatana] Me Menu - Review

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
Actually I was suggesting we *don't* use different icons for the MeMenu title and menu items. While colour would be useful as it's used elsewhere (eg Empathy client) it conflicts with the specific meaning colour has in the menu bar. And using mixed monochromatic/colour icons for the menu's

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
Fb asks (in German): Was machst du gerade? In english: what are you doing just now? To receive a more valuable response from the user, one should probably suggest, instead of asking.. Perhaps like: what you are doing just now: Gnite.. -- Gesendet von meinem Palm Pre Conscious User

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread David Hamm
@Sharma Other then slightly modifying the top image with configure buttons for the chat and broadcast, similar to the other images sign out part, this is a nice solid improvement over the original imo. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeMenuns website btw, took me a while to figure out that you have to

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/unity-crasher-fun into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-29 Thread Ted Gould
Ted Gould has proposed merging lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/unity-crasher-fun into lp:indicator-appmenu. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) Bad signal. Bad bad signal. Tracking the old root item so that we can disconnect from it properly. Also

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/stock-item-revamp into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-29 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/stock-item-revamp into lp:indicator-appmenu has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-appmenu/stock-item-revamp/+merge/28447 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/unity-crasher-fun into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-29 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/unity-crasher-fun into lp:indicator-appmenu has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-appmenu/unity-crasher-fun/+merge/28788 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/grab-late-menus into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-29 Thread Ted Gould
Ted Gould has proposed merging lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/grab-late-menus into lp:indicator-appmenu. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) Fix menus starting out. -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-appmenu/grab-late-menus/+merge/28796 Your

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/timing into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-29 Thread Cody Russell
Cody Russell has proposed merging lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/timing into lp:appmenu-gtk. Requested reviews: Canonical Desktop Experience Team (canonical-dx-team) -- https://code.launchpad.net/~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/timing/+merge/28797 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/timing into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-29 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/timing into lp:appmenu-gtk has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/timing/+merge/28797 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:appmenu-gtk.

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/grab-late-menus into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-29 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/grab-late-menus into lp:indicator-appmenu has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-appmenu/grab-late-menus/+merge/28796 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-appmenu.

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/mock-application into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-29 Thread Ted Gould
Ted Gould has proposed merging lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/mock-application into lp:indicator-appmenu. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) Really simple mock application utility that takes a JSON file from dbusmenu-dumper and turns it into an