Re: [Ayatana-dev] appmenu-gtk api for disabling aplication menus

2011-02-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 22/01/11 17:05, Karel Karlitos Macha jr. wrote: I would like to ask if there is a possibility - for example with appmenu-gtk API - to let the application menus disappear without the need of starting indicator applet. I am developping a Linux based kiosk for older people and the

Re: [Ayatana] I don't think global menu and the panel is good for a touch OS

2011-02-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 18/01/11 18:09, Conscious User wrote: They are very different things, and a design that works well for one will hardly ever work well for the other. I'm a little bit confused now because Mark's blog post about Unity clearly stated that some design decisions were motivated by touch

Re: [Ayatana] Better use of backlight in Unity launcher

2011-02-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
We're experimenting with different uses of the backlight. For example, we'd like to experiment with using that to show focus in the keyboard navigation case (Alt-F1). I don't think running is useful, given we already have the symbolic pips, and I think there are risks to changing the look of the

Re: [Ayatana] Launcher DnD - import applications on DnD start

2011-02-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Great suggestions all! How about this: - if no app on the launcher can handle this type, and there is a default launcher, we put it at the bottom (where it would launch) and wiggle it to call attention to it - we also allow drag to the apps place, which would open (on hover) with the top

Re: [Ayatana] I don't think global menu and the panel is good for a touch OS

2011-02-20 Thread Mitja Pagon
I would draw a distinction between touch friendly and touch optimized, and while I agree with what MPT said about Unity and Ubuntu not being optimized for touch (mainly because of the applications), there is nothing wrong with making interfaces touch friendly (usable on, but not optimized for,

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2011-02-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I think we should provide a standard collapsing approach for things which could be window indicators and which are commonly system indicators too, like volume. When maximised, the window indicator is embedded in the system indicator (so there's only one volume indicator, and in there you find

Re: [Ayatana] Left close buttons on tabs

2011-02-20 Thread Valeryan_24
Hi, Thanks a lot for your answer. On Firefox for example, there is an extension (Tab Mix Plus) which allows to put left close button at left side, with this order : Close - Icon - Name And when there is only one tab opened, close button is kept :

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2011-02-20 Thread Mitja Pagon
Using the example of volume control mentioned below, am I the only one who thinks windicators make little sense and are in fact bad UX. Follow my example. What is the added benefit of having the per-application volume control as windicator. Music players already have per application volume

Re: [Ayatana] Better use of backlight in Unity launcher

2011-02-20 Thread Carl Simpson
Ah, dammit, how did this end up in… Sorry about this. :/ I'll move it to the right thread. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help :

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2011-02-20 Thread Carl Simpson
Annoyingly, this somehow ended up in a completely different thread due to the horrors of human error. I'm reposting here. Sticking with the examples of Banshee and volume, for the sake of argument, we also recognise two sorts of window indicator: a) A window indicator that stands alone as

Re: [Ayatana] Launcher DnD - import applications on DnD start

2011-02-20 Thread Jason Smith
Placing at the bottom will hold challenges for a folded situation, though placing at the top will slide things that would otherwise be stationary. However, since we are known to be in a situation where no icon can possibly resolve the drop (with the exclusion of the trash), perhaps always placing

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2011-02-20 Thread appi2...@gmail.com
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Carl Simpson cwd.simp...@gmail.comwrote: My concern is that the functionality of changing the volume of Banshee moves about quite a bit. It does this in two ways: 1) It moves from place to place in the interface- namely between the panel and the window

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2011-02-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 20/02/11 18:39, Mitja Pagon wrote: Using the example of volume control mentioned below, am I the only one who thinks windicators make little sense and are in fact bad UX. No, of course you are not the only person, there's lots of dissent, which is fine and stimulates discussion to get a