Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-15 Thread Arian van Gend
That just means cluttering the dash instead of the launcher, which I don't fancy, since at the moment, I really don't like the way the Dash works. It feels too inefficient. 2011/3/15 David david.reichl...@googlemail.com Hello, Let's see what people who try it have to say. Don't worry if

Re: [Ayatana] Consolidated Keyboard Indicator (or: Polyglots need love, too)

2011-03-15 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Lajoie wrote on 13/03/11 09:27: Ubuntu needs a consolidated keyboard indicator, one that allows users to change keyboard layouts and keyboard input methods all in one place. Check out the attached image to see what a disaster the current

[Ayatana] Double side springboard! The video.

2011-03-15 Thread andrea azzarone
Maybe this is batter than a simple mockup:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RudBG7pfzgfeature=player_embeddedI have used ubuntu logo as Shortcuts dash, because I just wanted to make the idea!I hope you like it!Andrea Azzaronehttp://www.ubuntusecrets.it

Re: [Ayatana] Consolidated Keyboard Indicator (or: Polyglots need love, too)

2011-03-15 Thread Marc Lajoie
Hey, wow, I see you guys are already way ahead of me on this one. So how can I help? Is there already some code on this that I can hack on? Marc Lajoie On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Lajoie

Re: [Ayatana] Double side springboard! The video.

2011-03-15 Thread Peterson Silva
Wow, this is awesome! =D Could you also show how would it work with auto/itelli-hide on? *Peterson* *http://petercast.net* On 15 March 2011 12:18, andrea azzarone aazzar...@hotmail.it wrote: Maybe this is batter than a simple mockup:

Re: [Ayatana] Double side springboard! The video.

2011-03-15 Thread Marco Biscaro
It looks like nice. Very nice. Very, very nice! This could be included as an extra for Unity (the feature could be enabled or disabled via ccsm, for example). On Ter, 2011-03-15 at 16:18 +0100, andrea azzarone wrote: Maybe this is batter than a simple mockup:

Re: [Ayatana] Double side springboard! The video.

2011-03-15 Thread Peterson Silva
Yeah I think this is best; the user would find things the way he left them =D *Peterson* *http://petercast.net* On 15 March 2011 13:08, andrea azzarone aazzar...@hotmail.it wrote: When you call it back you will view the last side but i can change this behavior! I wait only for suggestions!

Re: [Ayatana] Double side springboard! The video.

2011-03-15 Thread M. Adnan Quaium
@Andrea Azzarone and @Marc Lajoie I really liked both of your ideas! Rocking Idea!! It should be implemented in the Unity by default. On 15 March 2011 17:12, Marc Lajoie manorap...@gmail.com wrote: Andrea Azzarone, you are officially da man. I just got my development environment up and

Re: [Ayatana] Double side springboard! The video.

2011-03-15 Thread Marc Lajoie
I disagree. I think the launcher should always come back showing the apps side. After all, the launcher is much more often used to do app switching/launching of favorite apps, than to call up the dash (which is used for more infrequent tasks), so having it appear always showing the more often used

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme

2011-03-15 Thread S. Christian Collins
On 03/15/2011 09:55 AM, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: We need a new unique set of lucrative cool icon set as well. Neither the humanity nor a modified version of humanity any more. We need completely new set of unique icon, which must be way cooler than FAENZA. Does anybody know anything about new

Re: [Ayatana] Double side springboard! The video.

2011-03-15 Thread Peterson Silva
@Marc Hmm it really makes sense, yeah. *Peterson* *http://petercast.net* On 15 March 2011 13:39, Marc Lajoie manorap...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree. I think the launcher should always come back showing the apps side. After all, the launcher is much more often used to do app

Re: [Ayatana] Double side springboard! The video.

2011-03-15 Thread Conscious User
Looking good! I think the corner button could flip the launcher AND activate the Dash. It makes sense: - clicking on an application launcher closes the Dash if it's open anyway, so there's little use in making the application side available when the Dash is open - the tendency is to Dash

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme

2011-03-15 Thread Marco Biscaro
I think that the initial discussion was about a *sound* theme, wasn't it? On Ter, 2011-03-15 at 11:46 -0500, S. Christian Collins wrote: On 03/15/2011 09:55 AM, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: We need a new unique set of lucrative cool icon set as well. Neither the humanity nor a modified version of

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme

2011-03-15 Thread Ingo Gerth
A while ago I asked a question concerning the sound theme on askubuntu. Check it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21840/are-there-still-plans-for-a-new-sound-theme http://askubuntu.com/questions/21840/are-there-still-plans-for-a-new-sound-themeIt appears that the design team is on it, although

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Conscious User
I have a simple proposal to fix these problems: The application title should be removed from Unity's menu bar. I'm reliably informed that this would be extremely low risk, in that it would involve changing two lines of code. But how would be the design for maximized windows? I'm guessing the

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Spike Burch
I can verify that hiding the menus by default is problematic in my (limited) user testing. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After several weeks of trying, last week I finally succeeded in installing

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme

2011-03-15 Thread S. Christian Collins
On 03/15/2011 09:47 AM, Peterson Silva wrote: For the love of the goddess, please somebody say we'll have a new sound theme this time. Or that someone's working on it. Having listened to all of the sound theme submissions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Design/SoundTheme/Submissions-11-04 (and

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 03/15/2011 06:34 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: I was disappointed to see that in Unity, menus are invisible until you mouse over where they are supposed to be. For a window, until you mouse over it, the space reserved for its menus is taken up by an application or window title. And for the

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Chris Coulson
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 17:34 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After several weeks of trying, last week I finally succeeded in installing Natty to test Unity. I was disappointed to see that in Unity, menus are invisible until you mouse over

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Conscious User
Thorsten Wilms wrote: The alternative would be to show both title and menu, but giving the menu priority. For habituation and quick aiming, it's important that the menu always starts in the same spot from the left (assuming LTR reading direction). To guarantee that, without using an offset

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme / icon set

2011-03-15 Thread M. Adnan Quaium
Hello Paul, In responses to your question, well ... no I do not have any world class contacts in the genres you mentioned. On the other hand, somehow I've some Ubuntu newbies (some of them are converted to Ubuntu by me and some of get acquainted with me after using Ubuntu), who think Ubuntu's

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme

2011-03-15 Thread M. Adnan Quaium
Thanks Ingo, I did not aware of that. On 15 March 2011 19:12, Ingo Gerth i...@gerth-ac.de wrote: A while ago I asked a question concerning the sound theme on askubuntu. Check it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21840/are-there-still-plans-for-a-new-sound-theme

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Carl Simpson
The change that you propose might make it harder to see which application a particular menu belongs to. I think it's that (and the desire to hide a bit of messy interface) that led to the current situation, although I've no citation on it. I think in having it always-menu, care would need to be

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Saleel Velankar
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:34:52 PM Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: I have a simple proposal to fix these problems: The application title should be removed from Unity's menu bar. Possibly. The titlebar is used to differentiate between two windows of the same app, or less used to differentiate

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Vishnoo
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 15:51 -0300, Conscious User wrote: Thorsten Wilms wrote: The alternative would be to show both title and menu, but giving the menu priority. For habituation and quick aiming, it's important that the menu always starts in the same spot from the left (assuming LTR

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme

2011-03-15 Thread S. Christian Collins
On 03/15/2011 01:24 PM, S. Christian Collins wrote: Having listened to all of the sound theme submissions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Design/SoundTheme/Submissions-11-04 (and submitted one myself), I'm not sure that any one submission is a perfect sound set, and unfortunately, some are not very

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme

2011-03-15 Thread Marco Biscaro
I think that these sounds are better than the default Ubuntu's theme. Some comments: 1. At moment, they are consistent. We must ensure that the theme will keep consistent, as long as new sounds are added. 2. The sounds are not normalized. Imagine: the user logs in and the login sound is too

[Ayatana] how could we switch better between windows?

2011-03-15 Thread David
Hello, i am currently trying to figure out a nice method to switch between windows. At the moment i have this: http://unity.exemo.net/7/ Click on firefox to see it in action. I already like this one. But what could we do when: - there is 1 window open (okay probably switching to it) - there are

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Luke Benstead
On 15 March 2011 20:13, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 15:51 -0300, Conscious User wrote: Thorsten Wilms wrote: The alternative would be to show both title and menu, but giving the menu priority. For habituation and quick aiming, it's important that the menu always

Re: [Ayatana] how could we switch better between windows?

2011-03-15 Thread M. Adnan Quaium
On 15 March 2011 22:34, David david.reichl...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, i am currently trying to figure out a nice method to switch between windows. At the moment i have this: http://unity.exemo.net/7/ Click on firefox to see it in action. I already like this one. But what could we do

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Mitja Pagon
I've raised this issue before in various places, but I never got any response, so I'm really, positively surprised to see the same issues raised by someone from Canonical. Why not just keep the window title on the window, it's not really wasting that much screen space. This space efficiency

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Remco
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 23:29, Mitja Pagon mitja.pa...@inueni.com wrote: I've raised this issue before in various places, but I never got any response, so I'm really, positively surprised to see the same issues raised by someone from Canonical. I also raised this issue in a bug report[1], and

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Dylan McCall
After several weeks of trying, last week I finally succeeded in installing Natty to test Unity. I was disappointed to see that in Unity, menus are invisible until you mouse over where they are supposed to be. For a window, until you mouse over it, the space reserved for its menus is taken up

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Conscious User
Remco wrote: The thing I find jarring is that we have this mysterious design team that basically discusses things behind our backs here at Ayatana. I understand that a small team with face-to-face meetings can be beneficial to design, but a problem lies in communication and collaboration

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread appi2...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: I see four major problems with hiding the menus and covering them with an application or window title. 1. Most importantly, it makes the menus much harder to use. 2. It makes some functions effectively

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-15 Thread Marc Lajoie
I, for one, love the integration of the menu and titlebars into the panel in Natty. The decluttering of the workspace, or the chromifization (as in Google Chrome, which started the wonderful trend of minimal interfaces and the hiding of visual clutter) of Ubuntu is the main reason I am looking

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme / icon set

2011-03-15 Thread Peterson Silva
Paul, Thanks for the answer! When it comes to the Ubuntu sound theme, I can only say that I completely agree with you: we ought to have a sound theme that integrates well. That's a long term initiative, yes. On the other hand, I have to say that we need to think short term too. Of course

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme / icon set

2011-03-15 Thread IKT
Cheers, you are 100% right, they look really professional. In my opinion they are what the tango icon theme *should *be like. http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1id=128143file1=128143-1.pngfile2=file3=name=Faenza On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:25 AM, M. Adnan Quaium

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~karl-qdh/indicator-datetime/calendarmenuitemsignals into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-03-15 Thread Karl Lattimer
Karl Lattimer has proposed merging lp:~karl-qdh/indicator-datetime/calendarmenuitemsignals into lp:indicator-datetime. Requested reviews: Ted Gould (ted) Related bugs: Bug #726531 in Indicator Date and Time: Browsing calendar widget should update appointments

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~gunnarhj/indicator-session/bug-636693 into lp:indicator-session

2011-03-15 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Gunnar Hjalmarsson has proposed merging lp:~gunnarhj/indicator-session/bug-636693 into lp:indicator-session. Requested reviews: Ted Gould (ted) For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/indicator-session/bug-636693/+merge/53485 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~karl-qdh/indicator-datetime/calendarmenuitemsignals into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-03-15 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve review approve merge approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~karl-qdh/indicator-datetime/calendarmenuitemsignals/+merge/53467 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-datetime. ___ Mailing list: