Re: [Ayatana] We need a short-term solution for mail applications and the messaging menu

2011-03-18 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 17/03/11 10:16: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 14:27, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com ... The subject is already receiving less attention than I wanted without being derailed, [...] unfortunately so. perhaps we

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-18 Thread Mitja Pagon
Menu hiding is one of the risky moves we are making. Initial tests on unsuspecting users have shown they find 'em quickly and easily enough. I agree with you, though, that a hint to their existence and anchor (left-of-the-File-menu) would be nice. That can come in a refinement, mockups and

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-18 Thread Valentin
Hello guys! If there is no menu item in the hidden menu bar, on mouse over there should be no action (the title of the application should not be shorten). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-18 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fr, 2011-03-18 at 19:15 +0100, Mitja Pagon wrote: I agree with you, though, that a hint to their existence and anchor (left-of-the-File-menu) would be nice. That can come in a refinement, mockups and patches welcome. Please forgive me if I provide no link, but there's either a bug report

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-18 Thread Conscious User
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: ... (I pretty much agree with the paragraphs before, so I'm simply omitting them...) I think the Gnome Shell designers are badly underestimating the use cases for minimize. Maybe... but the problem is, so is Unity, at least currently. It didn't remove

[Ayatana] Launcher pulse prominence

2011-03-18 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Hey everyone, I have something I've been thinking about and I'd like to discuss. Does anybody else feel that Unity's pulse animation (when you click an item on the launcher) isn't prominent enough of an effect to show something is happening? I personally prefer launchers/docks where the item

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-18 Thread Vishnoo
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 16:24 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: I think the Gnome Shell designers are badly underestimating the use cases for minimize. No, they havent. I take it you havent read Owen's Mail on the Shell ML.. :-) They know what use-cases they havent fixed (or dont have a better

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-03-18 Thread Ian Santopietro
Why in the world does the *user* need to constantly maximize/restore? Apps need to open the windows with the right size. And any app which requires the user to constantly resize is broken. Maximize does have a lot of very nice use cases, as it can help a user focus on the task they're trying to

Re: [Ayatana] Launcher pulse prominence

2011-03-18 Thread Ian Santopietro
Hi Benjamin. Interesting article on OMG! the other day. I can't say I agree on all your points, though, but it was a good read. :-) Anyway: I haven't really thought about that, but I think you may be on to something there. I personally think the bouncy thing that a certain other UNIX-like

Re: [Ayatana] the top-Panel and application-toolbars should be a different color

2011-03-18 Thread Ian Santopietro
Hi Nick. I actually posted something like that a few days ago, but it ended up a subjective discussion, and was better left off of here. I made a theme to also illustrate what I meant, you might give it a try if you're interested: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:isantop/iansanto-ppa sudo apt-get

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~karl-qdh/indicator-datetime/nopwdprompt into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-03-18 Thread David Barth
Review: Approve The branch fixes the issue, ie the service does not crash anymore if I have a remote calendar for which the credentials are not saved in evolution. It means that the integration will only work in the case where the user accepted to keep the credentials in the evolution keyring.