[Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Jorge Ortega
I find Unity approach to multiple virtual desktops extremely half-hearted: it just provides the option to used them and an icon which you can't remove from the bar. Unity could use virtual desktop in a transparent way: 1-Don't show icon if only a desktop is being used. 2-*Apps. should open in a

Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?

2011-04-14 Thread Pippa Kyle
We're thinking maybe: Step 1: Alt-Tab-Tab-Tab to relevant app. Step 2: Either a) Release Alt to access mostly recent viewed window for that app (or only window if there's only 1 window open for that app). or b} Pause - spread of windows for that app is displayed. Tab to one you

[Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Marco Rofei
New scroll bars look and behaviour as it is in natty today are extremely hard to use in touchscreen devices were you cannot use mouse-hover functionality. I suggest to extend delay time they use to disappear when mouse isn't close enough. Regards MR

Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?

2011-04-14 Thread Paul Sladen
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: a. Already being in a Terminal (currently Alt-tab-tab-tab) b. Needing to switch from a Firefox window? (Alt-tab-tab-tab-tab) We're thinking maybe: ... If I understand correctly? a. From another Terminal Alt-*long pause*-tab-tab-tab b. From

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Marco Rofei
There's a plugin for touch screens called 'Unity Grab Handles' which makes it easy ti resize and move windows.:) Problem isn't in resize windows :) Problem is in scrolling within a document. In Evince, for example, we have an icon that let you jump to next page, but in other software or

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Mark Curtis
There would need to be some user testing, but I don't think people just use one full-screened app at a time. This, coupled with your own admission of exceptions to be made for application would I think cause more confusion and inconsistency than the current implementation. On the other note,

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Remco
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 14:51, Marco Rofei marco.ro...@gmail.com wrote: There's a plugin for touch screens called 'Unity Grab Handles' which makes it easy ti resize and move windows.:) Problem isn't in resize windows Problem is in scrolling within a document. In Evince, for example, we have

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Mark Curtis
Unity doesn't support single (multi?) touch scrolling like that found on phones? From: marco.ro...@gmail.com To: virtualspect...@googlemail.com Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:51:48 +0200 CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars There's a plugin for

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Marco Rofei
Il giorno gio, 14/04/2011 alle 15.15 +0200, Remco ha scritto: Aren't you supposed to swipe your fingers across the screen to scroll in Evince? An interactive scrollbar is the worst way to scroll in touch UIs. Of course, but ubuntu support for touch screen devices is not so good right today.

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Mark Curtis
Then wouldn't it be better to file a bug that it's not working properly (presumably with that hardware) rather than coming up with another way of scrolling? From: marco.ro...@gmail.com To: remc...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:24:08 +0200 CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Ian Santopietro
I played around with this idea myself when I was working on my own shell. The issue is that since end users don't really tend to use multiple desktops, they were confused as to where their apps had gone. Power users didn't like it because it felt like the system was trying to do their work for

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Mark Curtis
Inconsistency where some open in the new workspace others don't You still didn't answer how one would manage windows if the launcher icon minimized it (I think that's probably better in a separate thread though) From: jorge.ortega...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:16:00 +0100 Subject: Re:

Re: [Ayatana] Music Lens

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Stephenson
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 16:01 -0300, Sebastian Porta wrote: Hello, everybody. First let me tell you that I've been testing Ubuntu 11.04 Beta for a week now, and I really like Unity and the potential that it has. Second, I love the Lenses and I think it would be really great if you include a

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Jamu Kakar
Hi Jorge, On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jorge Ortega jorge.ortega...@gmail.com wrote: I find Unity approach to multiple virtual desktops extremely half-hearted: it just provides the option to used them and an icon which you can't remove from the bar. Unity could use virtual desktop in a

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Jorge Ortega
Hi jamur, I don't want the shell to make arbitrary decisions for me the decision to open apps on the same workspace is as arbitrary as the decision to give them their own workspace. Now, I don't have hard data to support this but there it goes anyway: most of the times, when people work with

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Kahn
Hello Ayatana mailing list. This would cause a lot of confusion for users. When you're on a viewport and you click an icon you expect the program to open right in front of you. Whisking the user around to different viewports when he opens programs will cause confusion and frustration... it is not

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Jorge Ortega
Christopher, But the new app would open right in front of you... The way I see it is: there wouldn't be any defined number of desktops, and definitely you shouldn't be able to see several empty desktops. The point is that a new desktop is created every time you start a new app. A compromise

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Kahn
What I mean by that is, when you click the launcher you expect one thing to happen: the program to open. Opening it anywhere else but right in front of me-*-on the viewport I'm currently looking at*--is adding unnecessary complexity and confusion to what should be a dead simple procedure. Whisking

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Jorge Ortega
I think from now own I'm repeating myself but I'll try again. If I call them virtual desktops is because they are not real, in the sense that Gimp open and running is real. There is not system overhead there. I really don't see the extra layer of complexity, quite the opposite. This is simple:

Re: [Ayatana] Multiple virtual desktops in Unity

2011-04-14 Thread Jorge Ortega
What if I want to use two applications at once? I prefer an environment in which I decide where windows are placed and when they're minimized, and given the ubiquity of such a convention I'd be very surprised if user testing could demonstrate that others don't. I may be referring to a web

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-session/lp747818 into lp:indicator-session

2011-04-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Review: Approve review approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-session/lp747818/+merge/57524 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-session. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to :

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/update-after-resume into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-04-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Review: Approve review approve This code could be simplified a great deal by just using g_dbus_connection_signal_subscribe() (that would also stop us from leaking that proxy), but probably not a good idea to start a refactoring at this point in the cycle :-) --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_754524 into lp:indicator-me

2011-04-14 Thread Ken VanDine
Ken VanDine has proposed merging lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_754524 into lp:indicator-me. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) Related bugs: Bug #754524 in The Me Menu: unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_new_va()

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-session/lp747818 into lp:indicator-session

2011-04-14 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~ted/indicator-session/lp747818 into lp:indicator-session has been updated. Status: Approved = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-session/lp747818/+merge/57524 --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/update-after-resume into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-04-14 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~mterry/indicator-datetime/update-after-resume into lp:indicator-datetime has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-datetime/update-after-resume/+merge/57574 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_754524 into lp:indicator-me

2011-04-14 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_754524/+merge/57713 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-me. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to :

[Ayatana-commits] [Branch ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-applet/applet] Rev 386: Handle a11y updates globally.

2011-04-14 Thread noreply
Merge authors: Michael Terry (mterry) Related merge proposals: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-applet/global-desc-update-callback/+merge/57533 proposed by: Michael Terry (mterry) revno: 386 [merge] committer: Ted

[Ayatana-commits] [Branch ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-me/trunk] Rev 145: Pass the username as a g_variant on the UserChanged signal (LP: #754524)

2011-04-14 Thread noreply
Merge authors: Ken VanDine (ken-vandine) Related merge proposals: https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_754524/+merge/57713 proposed by: Ken VanDine (ken-vandine) review: Approve - Ted Gould (ted) revno: 145

[Ayatana-commits] [Branch ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-me/trunk] Rev 146: 0.2.19

2011-04-14 Thread noreply
revno: 146 tags: 0.2.19 committer: Ken VanDine ken.vand...@canonical.com branch nick: trunk timestamp: Thu 2011-04-14 13:55:14 -0400 message: 0.2.19 modified: configure.ac -- lp:indicator-me

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_754524 into lp:indicator-me

2011-04-14 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_754524 into lp:indicator-me has been updated. Status: Approved = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-me/lp_754524/+merge/57713 --

[Ayatana-commits] [Branch ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-applet/applet] Rev 390: Forgot about the LP naming issue

2011-04-14 Thread noreply
revno: 390 committer: Ted Gould t...@gould.cx branch nick: trunk timestamp: Thu 2011-04-14 21:30:02 -0500 message: Forgot about the LP naming issue renamed: po/indicator-applet-af.po = po/af.po po/indicator-applet-am.po = po/am.po

[Ayatana-commits] [Branch ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-applet/applet] Rev 391: 0.4.12

2011-04-14 Thread noreply
revno: 391 tags: 0.4.12 committer: Ted Gould t...@gould.cx branch nick: trunk timestamp: Thu 2011-04-14 21:32:33 -0500 message: 0.4.12 modified: configure.ac -- lp:indicator-applet