Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

2011-03-16 Thread David Stevenson
On 16/03/11 13:01, Thorsten Wilms wrote: Especially given the huge role habituation and familiarity play in early evaluation of concepts and implementations by users. It's a small step from workflow to ritual. Sometimes the problem may be certain users stubbornness rather than anything

Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

2011-03-16 Thread Lee Hyde
On 16/03/11 13:01, Thorsten Wilms wrote: If you are not under too tight constraints, the questionshouldn't be how something is being done, not even how users would like to do it, but rather: how should they do it? I thoroughly disagree with this assessment of UI/X design for the following

Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

2011-03-16 Thread Mitja Pagon
...@freenet.de Cc: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:59:20 PM Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general On 16/03/11 13:01, Thorsten Wilms wrote: If you are not under too tight constraints, the questionshouldn't be how something is being done, not even how users

Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

2011-03-16 Thread Mitja Pagon
...@gmail.com Cc: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:37:11 PM Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general I am a writer. I write fiction using my computer, which for me is a creative tool. My workflow is maybe chaotic, sometimes illogical, but it works for me

Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

2011-03-16 Thread Marc Lajoie
languages is VB.NET at the time it was released). Cheers, Mitja - Original Message - From: Marc Lajoie manorap...@gmail.com To: Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com Cc: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:37:11 PM Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

2011-03-16 Thread Mitja Pagon
: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:02:16 PM Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general And you intend to understand your target audience's needs without including it in the discussion? Marc Lajoie ps. Where's your science

Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

2011-03-16 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 03/16/2011 02:59 PM, Lee Hyde wrote: On 16/03/11 13:01, Thorsten Wilms wrote: If you are not under too tight constraints, the questionshouldn't be how something is being done, not even how users would like to do it, but rather: how should they do it? I thoroughly disagree with this

Re: [Ayatana] Design problems in general

2011-03-16 Thread Bazon
On 03/16/2011 02:59 PM, Lee Hyde wrote: On 16/03/11 13:01, Thorsten Wilms wrote: If you are not under too tight constraints, the questionshouldn't be how something is being done, not even how users would like to do it, but rather: how should they do it? I thoroughly disagree with this