Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread SorinN
Good stuff - the menu (M) button should be implemented by ages .. finally some necessary order regarding usability 2011/3/21 frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com: hi fred ;) On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 16:11, Fred n...@lognet.com.br wrote: The Unit has been points of divergence

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread Mitja Pagon
Good stuff - the menu (M) button should be implemented by ages .. finally some necessary order regarding usability No it should not, it's a bad idea and a degradation of usablity and if you would have even the basic understanding of the subject of usability you would know why. Cheers,

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread SorinN
I have the basic subject of Usability ;) In fact I still earn money from this domain on a monthly basis. About menu button - It's all about the user choice - Usability is one of the Quality domains (btw) - for some applications, some users never use menu entries and for some applications they

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread Pablo QuirĂ³s
The new behavior for devices is an interesting idea to explore; not quite sure about the rest. Dynamic icons could be very confusing for some users... 2011/3/21 SorinN nemes.so...@gmail.com I have the basic subject of Usability ;) In fact I still earn money from this domain on a monthly

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread Lee Hyde
On 21/03/11 11:12, Mitja Pagon wrote: Good stuff - the menu (M) button should be implemented by ages .. finally some necessary order regarding usability No it should not, it's a bad idea and a degradation of usablity and if you would have even the basic understanding of the subject of

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread Lee Hyde
On 21/03/11 11:41, SorinN wrote: Using Close-Minimize-Maximize buttons on the left side on the window top is a breach for example (if you would have even the basic understanding of the subject of usability you would know why...) +1 :-) Regards, Lee. -- It is characteristic of theistic

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread Lee Hyde
On 21/03/11 12:01, Mitja Pagon wrote: First it's not all about choice, second if application has menus users never use, should that application have menus at all? But that is not a problem that should be solved on a shell level, it's up to applications to improve their interfaces. Surely it

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 03/21/2011 01:42 PM, Lee Hyde wrote: As I mentioned previously, I favour these nested vertical menus (for me they're much more intuitive*). Even if, as a fallback for applications which still rely on a menu toolbar (presently the vast majority) it involves a vertical implementation of said

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread Lee Hyde
On 21/03/11 13:27, Thorsten Wilms wrote: But having to hit one target to reveal a 2nd level can't compete with having that level directly accessible. (One might see Marking Menus as an exception, where a little training allows blind use.) I've found (and I can only speak for myself here of

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-21 Thread Bazon
IMHO: keeping the old Gnome application categories and making them easy accessible is a good idea. Only using icons without text is a bad idea, that makes things very hard to distinguish. Specially in the recent documents. On 20.03.2011 16:11, Fred wrote: The Unit has been points of

[Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-20 Thread Fred
The Unit has been points of divergence among the users. I developed some ideas seeking to improve usability. I hope it will be useful for developers. Mockup in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=s1-0Uw0sjz4vq=hd720 Pic: http://i.imgur.com/0FI1q.jpg -- This message was sent from

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
hi fred ;) On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 16:11, Fred n...@lognet.com.br wrote: The Unit has been points of divergence among the users. I developed some ideas seeking to improve usability. I hope it will be useful for developers. Mockup in this video: