Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-11-18 Thread Christian Giordano
Hi Michal, Thumb should not appear until it is clickable/grabbable https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/870714 With the changes for 12.04, not sure if you have seen the videos, it will be easier for the user to know what the target area of his pointer movement is because the thumb will be

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-11-17 Thread Christian Giordano
Hi guys, On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Stefanos A. stapos...@gmail.com wrote: Two things I'd love to see improved (over the 12.04 video): (a) as, the OP suggests, hide the arrows quicker when the mouse moves away. This solves the resize vs scroll issue, and makes the GUI feel faster to

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-11-17 Thread Christian Giordano
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:12 PM, SorinN nemes.so...@gmail.com wrote: Normal desktop user ? No one think about ? It is not just about saving screen real-estate but also to remove chrome/clutter. Best, chr ___ Mailing list:

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-08 Thread nick rundy
://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/870693 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 09:07:10 +1000 From: james.g.jen...@gmail.com To: joerlend.schins...@gmail.com CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars Regards, James Jenner +61 402 203 344 james.g.jen...@gmail.com On 8 October

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-08 Thread Michal Strba
On 10/08/2011 04:47 PM, nick rundy wrote: Two critical bugs keep the ayatana-scrollbars from being usable in my opinion; I filed bug reports in hope that 12.04 will get the fix: Thumb should not appear until it is clickable/grabbable https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/870714 Thumb should

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread nick rundy
: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars To: nru...@hotmail.com CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net 2011/10/6 nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com Have you tried using the lower-right corner to resize your window? Using the lower-right grabber you can resize the whole window, resize just horizontally, or just

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 7 October 2011 14:25, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com wrote: to 11.04), I have always HATED how hard it is to resize windows in ubuntu. So I turned to the grabber  because it was the only way to reliably get a It's really easy to resize windows in Ubuntu. Hold alt and middleclick anywhere to

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread SorinN
But Stefanos no one talk about desktops - particularly big screens for home or production where is enough space for normal scrollbars, where the global menu also ..is not a solution (as it never was for big screens). All peoples talk here about small screens - this is the main target of Ubuntu

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 07. okt. 2011 15:12, skrev SorinN: But Stefanos no one talk about desktops - particularly big screens for home or production where is enough space for normal scrollbars, where the global menu also ..is not a solution (as it never was for big screens). All peoples talk here about small

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
Den 07. okt. 2011 15:12, skrev SorinN: All peoples talk here about small screens - this is the main target of Ubuntu OS ? Normal desktop user ? No one think about ? +1 2011/10/7 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com: I run a dual screen setup with a 23 and a 24, both in

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 07. okt. 2011 16:43, skrev gespert...@gmail.com: You value that, but others (like me) tend to be willing to sacrifice some minimalism in order to get features more accessible. Hidden scrollbars (I have to admit I haven't tried 11.10, so I'm talking about the ones in 11.04) make things a

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread Stefanos A.
2011/10/7 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com On 7 October 2011 14:25, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com wrote: to 11.04), I have always HATED how hard it is to resize windows in ubuntu. So I turned to the grabber because it was the only way to reliably get a It's really easy

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread James Jenner
Regards, James Jenner +61 402 203 344 james.g.jen...@gmail.com On 8 October 2011 02:05, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.comwrote: Den 07. okt. 2011 16:43, skrev gespert...@gmail.com: With visible scrollbars you know where they are, you just move your pointer and use them.

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-07 Thread Eylem Koca
The only real problem I have with overlay scrollbars is when using GIMP. Extremely annoying behavior when you zoom in and you have to scroll. Especially bad while horizontal scroll. I don't know if it's just me... On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 7:07 PM, James Jenner james.g.jen...@gmail.com wrote:

[Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-06 Thread Michal Strba
Hello! I currently read the post on OMG! Ubuntu about overlay scrollbars in 12.04: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/minor-improvements-ubuntus-overlay-scrollbar-12-04-video/ I think that there can be another improvement because there is a bit problem. When you want to resize window to the right

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-06 Thread nick rundy
. Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:31:33 +0200 From: faiface2...@gmail.com To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars Hello! I currently read the post on OMG! Ubuntu about overlay scrollbars in 12.04: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/minor-improvements-ubuntus-overlay-scrollbar-12

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-10-06 Thread SorinN
. Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:31:33 +0200 From: faiface2...@gmail.com To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars Hello! I currently read the post on OMG! Ubuntu about overlay scrollbars in 12.04: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/minor-improvements-ubuntus

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-23 Thread Christian Giordano
Hi Marco, on touch interfaces, to drag, you are supposed interact directly with the page content. You are not supposed to see the thumb, and hence interact with it. Best, chr On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Marco Rofei marco.ro...@gmail.com wrote: New scroll bars look and behaviour as it is

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-23 Thread cmaglothin
Actually on Android there are some instances where an overlay scroll bar IS used. For example, when moving through contacts or music albums. This makes it easier to jump to the appropriate entry as quickly as possible. On Apr 23, 2011 12:13 PM, Christian Giordano christian.giord...@canonical.com

[Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Marco Rofei
New scroll bars look and behaviour as it is in natty today are extremely hard to use in touchscreen devices were you cannot use mouse-hover functionality. I suggest to extend delay time they use to disappear when mouse isn't close enough. Regards MR

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Marco Rofei
There's a plugin for touch screens called 'Unity Grab Handles' which makes it easy ti resize and move windows.:) Problem isn't in resize windows :) Problem is in scrolling within a document. In Evince, for example, we have an icon that let you jump to next page, but in other software or

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Remco
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 14:51, Marco Rofei marco.ro...@gmail.com wrote: There's a plugin for touch screens called 'Unity Grab Handles' which makes it easy ti resize and move windows.:) Problem isn't in resize windows Problem is in scrolling within a document. In Evince, for example, we have

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Mark Curtis
Unity doesn't support single (multi?) touch scrolling like that found on phones? From: marco.ro...@gmail.com To: virtualspect...@googlemail.com Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:51:48 +0200 CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars There's a plugin

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Marco Rofei
Il giorno gio, 14/04/2011 alle 15.15 +0200, Remco ha scritto: Aren't you supposed to swipe your fingers across the screen to scroll in Evince? An interactive scrollbar is the worst way to scroll in touch UIs. Of course, but ubuntu support for touch screen devices is not so good right today.

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

2011-04-14 Thread Mark Curtis
: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars Il giorno gio, 14/04/2011 alle 15.15 +0200, Remco ha scritto: Aren't you supposed to swipe your fingers across the screen to scroll in Evince? An interactive scrollbar is the worst way to scroll in touch UIs. Of course, but ubuntu support