Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-06-18 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
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Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-06-17 Thread Remco
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 21:41, Greg K Nicholson g...@gkn.me.uk wrote: On 16 June 2010 15:24, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: Platform team is reviewing unclutter for inclusion in the default install and session. \o/ ( Everyone: Alt+F2, apt:unclutter Alt+F2, unclutter ) After

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-06-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
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Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 14/06/10 08:55, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Frederik Nnaji wrote on 05/05/10 16:14: On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 02:24, Alex Launi alex.la...@gmail.com mailto:alex.la...@gmail.com wrote: I usually move my cursor completely out of view when I'm not using it. I've definitely seen my

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-06-14 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 14 June 2010 13:31, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 14/06/10 08:55, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Frederik Nnaji wrote on 05/05/10 16:14: On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 02:24, Alex Launi alex.la...@gmail.com mailto:alex.la...@gmail.com wrote: I usually move my cursor completely out

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-08 Thread Jan-Christoph Borchardt
I guess I just changed my opinion towards this: If you are watching a movie or looking at photos, you don’t want the cursor and notifications in the way … if it is actively being used because you’re in a workflow, you don’t want to be annoyed either. The annoyance is the major disadvantage and

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-06 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:51, Frederik Nnaji frederik.nn...@gmail.comwrote: about the thread's main topic: first of all, mouse cursors should never obstruct, they should help with orientation. the purpose of a mouse pointer is, to allow the user to focus on special small areas for

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-05 Thread Walter Wittel
Microsoft Outlook had this feature (at least for awhile). I never found it useful, and I think the increasing growth of touch and other input methods mentioned above is the kicker. However it is great to be able to explore all ideas here! On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Greg K Nicholson

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-05 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 02:24, Alex Launi alex.la...@gmail.com wrote: I usually move my cursor completely out of view when I'm not using it. I've definitely seen my roommate, brother, and mom all do the same. that's a problem. how about removing the mouse cursor altogether while typing? if the

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-05 Thread Gavin Langdon
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Frederik Nnaji frederik.nn...@gmail.comwrote: how about removing the mouse cursor altogether while typing? Actually, IIRC OS X does this and it's quite a nice feature (although sometimes it just appears like it's a bug rather than a feature).

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-04 Thread Jan-Christoph Borchardt
On 5 May 2010 01:22, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: What im thinking is that if something is going on in the background that may not need a notification but a user may want to go to like an app opening or just that the app needs attention. So my idea is that the mouse cursor

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-04 Thread Scott E. Armitage
I think that relying on mouse cursors as notifications is a scary idea. With the advent of new input methods (and old ones becoming more popular) such as touch-screens, the role of the mouse cursor does not have a 100% rock-solid future. Why put the effort into something that may not be there five

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-04 Thread Alex Launi
I usually move my cursor completely out of view when I'm not using it. I've definitely seen my roommate, brother, and mom all do the same. I don't think the cursor is a good place to be trying to convey information unless it's actively being used such as hand over links, resize handle, etc. --

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-04 Thread Ralph Green
On 5/4/10, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: So my idea is that the mouse cursor displays the icon of the app (for a few seconds) that needs attention if its not focused. Howdy, For the most part, I'd say it is worth trying to see how it is to use it. The biggest problem I can

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-04 Thread Tyler Brainerd
Theres a possibility that it could be done in a beneficial way, but honestly, I can't imagine anything more intrusive then an inconsistent cursor. it would drive me nuts. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hey all, Since we are looking to innovate

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-05-04 Thread Luke Morton
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 23:06 -0500, Ralph Green wrote: On 5/4/10, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: So my idea is that the mouse cursor displays the icon of the app (for a few seconds) that needs attention if its not focused. Howdy, For the most part, I'd say it is worth