Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-31 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SorinN wrote on 30/03/11 22:33: Matthew If it's an obscene amount, your pointer acceleration settings are wrong: you'll have just as much trouble getting to the Ubuntu button, the Trash, or the session menu. The obscene amount is still

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-31 Thread Remco
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:57, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: Interface design for notebook and desktop PCs has always assumed that you can get from any point on the screen, to any other point on the screen, with a single flick of the mouse or touchpad. That's true for Windows,

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-30 Thread SorinN
Klevin, you say : No, it would take more clicks than the expected, I think that, if not my idea, the button on titlebar is handlier than this. , talking about the show / hide menu-bar button. It will not take many clicks because if I need to see the menubar I click the button and the menubar

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-30 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saleel Velankar wrote on 29/03/11 15:16: In a nonmaximized window on a. a large screen b. with other nonmaximized windows present The global-menubar fails for these reasons. 1. Confusion on which application the menu is for. This is a bug in

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-30 Thread SorinN
Matthew If it's an obscene amount, your pointer acceleration settings are wrong: you'll have just as much trouble getting to the Ubuntu button, the Trash, or the session menu. The obscene amount is still there - you can not cut it out in just 3 words. It would be easy of course to solve

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-30 Thread Ian Santopietro
I use Unity on a 23 full HD monitor, and I don't find it tiring to move the mouse to the menu at all, and I use it a minimum of 8 hours per day. On Mar 30, 2011 3:34 PM, SorinN nemes.so...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-30 Thread SorinN
Sure if we compare individual by individual experience we are just few millions here - each with the best theoretic argument. That's why this argument should be probably the last fire in the battle. Fortunately Usability is a science which work with other values. 2011/3/31 Ian Santopietro

[Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-29 Thread Saleel Velankar
In a nonmaximized window on a. a large screen b. with other nonmaximized windows present The global-menubar fails for these reasons. 1. Confusion on which application the menu is for. 2. Having to move the mouse an obscene amount In my 1 + 2 = not nice behavior.

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
1. Confusion on which application the menu is for. The Menu is always for the window with focus. There's also the window title that tells you. 2. Having to move the mouse an obscene amount While this is true, it's easier to hit the menu because they are always in the same place, and

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-29 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 08:16, Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com wrote: The global-menubar fails for these reasons. 1. Confusion on which application the menu is for. 2. Having to move the mouse an obscene amount 3. Breaking focus-follows-mouse. Maybe this is just another inconsistency.

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-29 Thread SorinN
good question when you have more than 2 windows, is very confusing. because I don't use small screens (21 and 24), I almost never use full-screen maximised windows. I have enough space and I'm happy with that. I've tried global menu for a while but it come to be a nonsense on a large screen. With

Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened windows.

2011-03-29 Thread Mark Curtis
If the menu being in the exact same place is how it should be then why not have Maximize/Minimize/Close up there the whole time too? From: isan...@gmail.com To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:20:54 + Subject: Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full