Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 06/07/10 08:49, Philipp Wendler wrote: Hi, Am 06.07.2010 08:41, schrieb Mark Shuttleworth: Interesting questions. My gut feel would be: - incoming IM notifications would be suppressed - incoming calls would be displayed Why the latter? When I put my cellphone in DND (or

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-07 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 12:55 +0200, Philipp Wendler wrote: But the point is, it behaves similarly for phone calls and for IM (the latter also lead to vibration and screen message). From my personal use of the phone, I don't see how this would be desirable. For example, I routinely set the

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 06/07/10 02:09, Frederik Nnaji wrote: Or will it have effect for social communication also? How about incoming voice and video calls? Do Not Disturb should be a system-exlusive mode? Interesting questions. My gut feel would be: - incoming IM notifications would be suppressed - incoming

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-06 Thread Philipp Wendler
Hi, Am 06.07.2010 08:41, schrieb Mark Shuttleworth: Interesting questions. My gut feel would be: - incoming IM notifications would be suppressed - incoming calls would be displayed Why the latter? When I put my cellphone in DND (or silence) mode, nothing is signaled: no calls, no SMS, no

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-05 Thread Frederik Nnaji
Hi there ;) On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 15:14, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: Do-not-disturb did come up in our latest review of thinking for 11.04 design work, so please ask MPT for a pointer to the (placeholder) spec where it should emerge. I would guess it would be a me-menu-2.0 type

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-06-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 18/06/10 13:18, Frederik Nnaji wrote: On 2010-06-18, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 23:34 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 31/03/10 18:51, Jim Rorie wrote: From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mulling a global do no disturb state. This

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-06-18 Thread Vishnoo
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 23:34 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 31/03/10 18:51, Jim Rorie wrote: From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mulling a global do no disturb state. This would turn off desktop notifications and other intrusions. Do-Not-Disturb should *definitely* be in

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Conscious User
Dani, though I agree that consistency is important, you should keep in mind that the two concepts involved here are semantically different. In the messaging menu the arrow means running while in the me menu the point means selected. The most important difference between the two is that *more

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Remco
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 16:42, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: Dani, though I agree that consistency is important, you should keep in mind that the two concepts involved here are semantically different. In the messaging menu the arrow means running while in the me menu the point

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Conscious User
Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 à 12:31 -0400, Alex Launi a écrit : On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: The problem is that everything you said above does not apply to anything other than IM, at least not for the moment. There's

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Jim Rorie
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 13:23 -0400, Alex Launi wrote: I'm sure I missed some cases, and empirical results will find places that need tweaking, but I think it's a decent start to a higher level of presence integration into the desktop From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mulling a

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Alex Launi
I think the busy state is a good one for this case, busy means I'm working- don't interrupt me unless it's urgent so while you'd still be online via empathy, there would be no notification it would just silently go into the messaging menu until you are no longer busy and can receive the message

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 31/03/10 18:51, Jim Rorie wrote: From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mulling a global do no disturb state. This would turn off desktop notifications and other intrusions. Do-Not-Disturb should *definitely* be in the spec for 10.10. Please do review them post-UDS and raise a flag