Re: [Babel-users] MTU based routing for tunnel based babel networks?

2023-07-16 Thread Daniel Gröber
On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 12:47:30AM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > >> IP does not support variable MTU links. > > > > Excuse me, but that's plain false. IP was designed in an environment where > > (non-ethernet) networks with various MTU standards were commonplace > > Sorry, I wasn't clear.

Re: [Babel-users] MTU based routing for tunnel based babel networks?

2023-07-16 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
>> IP does not support variable MTU links. > > Excuse me, but that's plain false. IP was designed in an environment where > (non-ethernet) networks with various MTU standards were commonplace Sorry, I wasn't clear. IP requires every link to have a well-defined MTU: all the nodes connected to a

Re: [Babel-users] MTU based routing for tunnel based babel networks?

2023-07-16 Thread Daniel Gröber
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:43:44PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > IP does not support variable MTU links. Excuse me, but that's plain false. IP was designed in an environment where (non-ethernet) networks with various MTU standards were commonplace and this is very much supported. Why else

Re: [Babel-users] MTU based routing for tunnel based babel networks?

2023-07-16 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> Problem is when the underlay L3 network is composed of more tunnels and not > 1500 MTU ethernet links, then at each hop the path MTU could be reduced by > the tunnel overhead again and again and again (across the entire > path). Hence no predictable MTU I can deploy across all my interfaces >

Re: [Babel-users] MTU based routing for tunnel based babel networks?

2023-07-16 Thread Daniel Gröber
Hi Juliusz, On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 09:22:40PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > > I've been running babel on top of my wireguard IPv6 network for a while now > > and I have a problem that keeps biting me and I can't find a good solution > > for: babel is oblivious to a link's MTU and picks

Re: [Babel-users] MTU based routing for tunnel based babel networks?

2023-07-16 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> I've been running babel on top of my wireguard IPv6 network for a while now > and I have a problem that keeps biting me and I can't find a good solution > for: babel is oblivious to a link's MTU and picks paths that involve > wireguard-in-wireguard tunnels even though paths without this stacking

[Babel-users] MTU based routing for tunnel based babel networks?

2023-07-16 Thread Daniel Gröber
Hi babelers, I've been running babel on top of my wireguard IPv6 network for a while now and I have a problem that keeps biting me and I can't find a good solution for: babel is oblivious to a link's MTU and picks paths that involve wireguard-in-wireguard tunnels even though paths without this

[Babel-users] ANNOUNCE: babeld-1.13

2023-07-16 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Hi, Babeld 1.13 is available from https://www.irif.fr/~jch/software/files/babeld-1.13.tar.gz https://www.irif.fr/~jch/software/files/babeld-1.13.tar.gz.asc For more information about the Babel routing protocol, please see https://www.irif.fr/~jch/software/babel/ This version updates