Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/20/04 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Baha'is *would* capitalize Frequented Fane, for it is reference to the Manifestation as the Temple of God. I don't think so. These are the opening to a surah concerning the 'time of the end'. Muhammad begins by swearing a series of oaths

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/21/04 6:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forget that my original statement was that a *Baha'i* would capitalize it, not a Muslim, not even Muhammad. I'm not convinced. I don't think that swearing by the Returning Christ fits the context. If the 'frequented fane' line were right

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 3/21/2004 8:44:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to the Bab's use of the term - I understand this to be word play, not interpretation. Dear Don, And what do you do about Ali's use of the term? warmest, Susan

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/22/04 1:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/21/2004 8:44:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to the Bab's use of the term - I understand this to be word play, not interpretation. Dear Don, And what do you do about Ali's use of the

Re: Study

2004-03-21 Thread Mark A. Foster
David, At 08:10 PM 3/21/2004, you wrote: Does someone know where I can find this study, or something which tells about it? If you know of any other studies it would also be appreciated. What several longitudinal studies suggest is that premarital sex is a reasonably good predictor of

Frequented Fane

2004-03-21 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
But perhaps that raises the whole question as to the nature of prophecy andits fulfillment?warmest, Susan The fact that the phrase "Frequented Fane" has issued from the Mouth's of Holy One's and Manifestations of God raises interesting questions about the nature of those Beings as seen as

Re: Frequented Fane

2004-03-21 Thread Mark A. Foster
Richard, At 12:46 AM 3/22/2004, you wrote: But perhaps that raises the whole question as to the nature of prophecy and its fulfillment? IMO, prophecies (warnings), whether conditional or decreed, serve the function of orienting people toward engaging in certain series of actions. They are a

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/22/04 3:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/21/2004 10:26:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you insist that the Bab's use of the term was authoritative interpretation of the Qu'ran, then either Ali did not understand the Qu'ran or he was