Hi Mark,
You might try asking Bruce Burrill.
Haven't heard from him in a while.
Greetings,
Dean Betts
- Original Message -
From: Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 7:50 PM
Subject: Mandate of Heaven and the Lineage of Tao
. We are told
that Babi's are Covenant-breakers.
Dear David,
As far as I know this applies only to Azalis. Nicholas was a Babi but no one
ever treated him as a Covenant breaker. In fact when Shoghi Effendi finished
translating Dawnbreakers he sent Nicholas a copy. There was one Western
Azali I
Dear Susan,
Okay, but were all of the Babi's who were rebuked by Baha'u'llah for not
accepting Him in the 1860's Azali's, or did some just not accept Baha'u'llah
as the Promised One?
About that woman, I never heard that she was considered a Covenant-breaker.
I was just saying that if all
In a message dated 5/23/2004 11:13:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do any of the Baha'i Writings suggest that the afterlife might be limited to
believers?
Dear Dean,
There are passages which could conceivably be interpreted that way, but I don't. Check out what
In a message dated 5/23/2004 11:25:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There are passages which could conceivably be interpreted that way, but I don't. Check out what Gleanings has to say.
Do you mean you don't interpret them that way?
No, I don't interpret those passages
Dear Susan,
In the '60's Baha'u'llah had barely begun to proclaim His message among the
Babis, so I'm not sure which rebukes you are talking about.
The stuff about the people of the Bayan.
About that woman, I never heard that she was considered a
Covenant-breaker.
I was just saying that if all
Dean,
At 10:12 PM 5/23/2004, you wrote:
Do any of the Baha'i Writings suggest that the afterlife might be limited to
believers?
Certain stations in the afterlife, like eternal life and the Supreme Concourse (malaa
al-a`laa), appear to be for believers, but the Baha'i primary sources clearly
According to Baha'i belief, though, this woman apparently became a
Covenant-breaker and got a spiritual disease on her acceptance of the Bab
and becoming a Babi.
The woman could not possibly be a Covenant-breaker if she had never heard of
Baha'u'llah. After all, it's Baha'u'llah's Covenant
My recollection is that Hand of the Cause Bill Sears wrote in God Loves Laughter that
he read the Dawn-breakers, and informed Marguerite that he was a Babi.
This lasted for some time, and then he read about Baha'u'llah. Likewise I don't think
this lady did anything but a noble thing.
The Bab
