RE: Prophets aren't fortunetellers

2005-02-02 Thread David Lambert
Ahang wrote: In absence of such a quotation, my view is that nobody can see the future because future is not written... The future, while not written, is a matrix of possibilities. In certain circumstances, it is possible for humans to display a near-certainty of what will happen. How much

RE: Near Death Experiences

2005-02-02 Thread Ahang Rabbani
In addition to sourced cited by Steve, another book by a Baha'i who touches on this subject is Life After Death: A Study of the Afterlife in World Religions by Farnaz Ma'sumian. Also, there was a book in Persian (by a lady author whose name I can't recall, but she was the daughter of Khosraw

Re: Near Death Experiences

2005-02-02 Thread JS
There is a video of a women (a Baha'i) who tells of her near near experience in which she, as a 12 year old non-Baha'i, saw 'Abdu'l-Baha and recognized Him years after the experience and became a Baha'i.Whether those kinds of experiences are spiritual or mental, they seem to be relevant to the

Baha'u'llah is the Qur'anic God

2005-02-02 Thread JS
Baha'u'llah, in the Lawh-i-Hasan-i-Sháhábadí provisionally translated by Khazeh Fananapazir, states that He is neither a Prophet (nabi) nor a Messenger (rasool). In fact, Baha'u'llah states Prophet Muhammad sealed and ended both rasalat andnabuwwat, and goes further to state that anyone claiming

Khaatam/khaatim/ and Faatih in the Ziyaarat for the Prophet ordained by the imam 'Ali

2005-02-02 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
 On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:47:09 -0800 (PST), JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Baha'u'llah, in the Lawh-i-Hasan-i-Sháhábadí provisionally translated by , states that He is neither a Prophet (nabi) nor a Messenger (rasool). So does that mean that the Muslims are correct and that no more prophets

Re: Baha'u'llah is the Qur'anic God

2005-02-02 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
The essence of belief in Divine unity [tawhid] consisteth in regarding Him Who is the Manifestation of God and Him Who is the invisible, the inaccessible, the unknowable Essence as one and the same. (Gleanings p. 166) And this applies to both Muhammad and to Baha'u'llah [Book of Certitude

Re: Baha'u'llah is the Qur'anic God

2005-02-02 Thread JS
"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "The essence of belief in Divine unity [tawhid] consisteth in regarding Him Who is the Manifestation of God and Him Who is the invisible, the inaccessible, the unknowable Essence as one and the same." (Gleanings p. 166) And this applies to both

Re: Baha'u'llah is the Qur'anic God

2005-02-02 Thread JS
Gilberto: So does that mean that the Muslims are correct and that no moreprophets or messengers are coming?JS: I'd say yes and no. Yes because Muhammad theSeal ended the coming of Prophets/Messengers with a station equal tothat ofany oftheProphet/Messenger that came before Him, or any that will

Re: Khaatam/khaatim/ and Faatih in the Ziyaarat for the Prophet ordained by the imam 'Ali

2005-02-02 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:25:07 -, Khazeh Fananapazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Imam 'Ali has a Ziyaarat [a Visitation Address] to the Soul of the Prophet of God to be recited at the Shrine of the Prophet in Madinah [the City of the Prophet]. This is a Tablet of Visitation of Imam `Ali

Re: Khaatam/khaatim/ and Faatih in the Ziyaarat for the Prophet ordained by the imam 'Ali

2005-02-02 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 19:36:46 -, Khazeh Fananapazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:47:09 -0800 (PST), JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Baha'u'llah, in the Lawh-i-Hasan-i-Sháhábadí provisionally translated by , states that He is neither a Prophet (nabi) nor a Messenger

RE: Khaatam/khaatim/ and Faatih in the Ziyaarat for the Prophet ordained by the imam 'Ali

2005-02-02 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
I'm glad. You've also given me a lot o think about too. I forget the person's name right now, but there was a famous Christian saint who aid that he strove TO AFFLICT THE COMFORTABLE AND COMFORT THE AFFLICTED...lol. It is good and healthy to reconsider what one believes and to think

RE: Scope of the House of Justice -VERY LONG

2005-02-02 Thread Susan Maneck
In The thirteenth Glad-Tidings and The eighth Ishraq, Baha'u'llah refers to The MEN of God's House of Justice as the Trustees of God. Dear Sandra, Keep in mind that originally Abdu'l-Baha applied this passage when asked why women were excluded from the Chicago House of Justice. It was later He

RE: Resolving perplexities

2005-02-02 Thread Susan Maneck
I'd also add that common sense dictates that the line might and would very well break at some point. Dear Iskandar, I agree. Certainly Baha'u'llah assumed this. But I doubt if Abdu'l-Baha expected this to happen after a single Guardian. And it is unclear that Shoghi Effendi expected it to happen

RE: Resolving perplexities

2005-02-02 Thread Susan Maneck
Susan once quoted a very interesting remark from Prof Banani (which I can't recall) to the effect that such things becomes the burden of the future generations. Dear Ahang, Not so much things like that. What the Dr. Banani said was that 'overglorifications of the past become a burden to the

Re: The 5 questions of yesterday [was Re: God's Hand [Q: 5:64], God's Mashiyy...

2005-02-02 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 1/7/2005 9:03:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you judge by web presence, it would seem more, but one person can generate a HUGE web presence if he works at it. One group claims 144,000 members, but admits that number is "Biblically

Re: Past Revelations

2005-02-02 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 1/7/2005 11:27:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can take something seriously, but not agree with it. Ibn Khaldun comes to mind. A brilliant man, the Muqaddimah was sheer genius. He was in the employ of the Ummayyads. To curry favor with

RE: Prophets seeing the future

2005-02-02 Thread Susan Maneck
I never characterize it that way or said such a thing. Sorry, I thought the subject heading was yours. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To

The meaning the Guardian attached to the word mutilation

2005-02-02 Thread Brent Poirier
I would like to illustrate from another passage of his writings where his intention is perhaps clearer, what Shoghi Effendi means by the term mutilated. In his introduction to God Passes By he explains that the periods of Baha'i history must be understood as one inseparable whole; to divorce