Status of Promulgation

2007-01-24 Thread Brent Poirier Attorney at Law
A point of clarification on this: This idea is from a passage in Promulgation of Universal Peace. The talks in that book are not authenticated, so we cannot be sure exactly what Abdu'l Baha said. I wouldn't put too much weight on a statement from non-authenticated texts. The Guardian

Re: Status of Promulgation

2007-01-24 Thread Albert
Brent Poirier Attorney at Law wrote: A point of clarification on this: This idea is from a passage in Promulgation of Universal Peace. The talks in that book are not authenticated, so we cannot be sure exactly what Abdu'l Baha said. I wouldn't put too much weight on a statement from

Re: Status of Promulgation

2007-01-24 Thread smaneck
The Guardian quotes a number of times from Promulgation in his letters and in God Passes By. He does not regard it as unreliable. Dear Brent, The Guardian sometimes quotes pilgrim's notes. That doesn't make them reliable as a body. At most, it might give some status to the specific

Luck and salvation

2007-01-24 Thread David Friedman
I am unable to refute the idea that luck can be involved in one's salvation. If luck can be involved then the importance of salvation would be diminished and it would raise the question of fairness. We are told in the Writings that how we end our life determines our salvation when we get to

Re: Luck and salvation

2007-01-24 Thread smaneck
Dear David, Your question reminds me of the old Mutazalite/Asharite [Free will vs. Predestination] debate. There is a story associated with al-Asharite's breaking away from his Mutazalite teacher. You can read it hear: al-Ashari posed to his teacher the cases of three brothers whose fates