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* From: Moojan Momen
* Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:51:42
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Prophecies related to Bahá'u'lláh (the Return of Christ) in the
Traditions (Hadíths)
The following are prophecies from the major books of Sunni Hadíth
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* Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:42:14
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Syria and `Akká
The land of Syria and the city of `Akká were Bahá'u'lláh's final place
of exile. His shrine near `Akká
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* From: Moojan Momen
* Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:42:12
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The Day of Resurrection
Some Muslims may object to the Bahá'í interpretation of the Day of
Judgement by saying that the Day of Judgement is also the Day of
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This is an interesting thread, though a few times it has gotten mean, nasty
and insulting, which is a shame. Gilberto, I find your reasoning
reasonable. We should all be able to see that these are theological matters,
and as such are open to interpretation and
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Hmm, just to be clear, when I said that there is only one true religion I
meant that all major religions are part of that one true religion (I was
certainly NOT implying that the Baha'i Faith alone was that one true
religon, God forbid!. Islam, Christianity, Judaism,
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So, I am a Baha'i because I see it as the latest and clearest Revelation for
our day and time, and view all those following other religions as brothers and
sisters in the One True Faith. If I saw the Baha'i Faith as just another one of
the squabbling religious groups
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Gilberto Simpson
gilberto.simp...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D.
iskandar@gmail.com wrote:
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This is the hadith that you quoted:
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Iskandar,
The point which I don't think you are seeing is that all the prophets
would have had special things about them which distinguish them from
one another. Adam was the first prophet. Moses is said to have spoken
to God directly. Joseph was said to be exceedingly
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In spite of how this thread seems to have changed I actually didn't
want to necessarily get into a huge exchange on the Finality of
Prophethood. I don't think minds will be changing on that point either
way.
I really only wanted to support Matt's observation of the
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That's interesting. There are actually many different Sufi teaching
stories of grammarians who get stuck in similar predicaments. I wonder
if that's the original source.
In any case, what do you think is the point of the story?
It is interesting that you are focusing
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It's one thing to say that Prophets have similarities and have differences.
But, it's quite another thing to quote a hadith that purportedly says
Muhammad was given things (was it six things?) that other Prophets lacked
and then when you do actually analyze those six
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On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D.
iskandar@gmail.com wrote:
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It's one thing to say that Prophets have similarities and have differences.
But, it's quite another thing to quote a hadith that purportedly says
Muhammad
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On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Gilberto Simpson
gilberto.simp...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D.
iskandar@gmail.com wrote:
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It's one thing to say that Prophets
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On 19/12/2010 3:13 AM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. wrote:
You also fail to see the self definition of the Baha'i Faith as a new
Divine Revelation, as a new religion and you talks about saints, and
awliyAA, and reformers, etc. Baha'u'llah is none of those. He is the
Founder
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A couple of things:
The Bahai Faith also divides humanity into believers and non-believers.
I'm not going to speak for Shias but certainly know of Sunnis who
accept Shias as Muslims. You have no right to generalize about over a
billion people like that.
-There is not
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Hi Gilberto,
Even though Baha'is may talk about Baha'is and non-Baha'is, we still
believe in equality of rights for all humans. All have equal rights and
opportunities. And we don't think non-Baha'is go to hell or should be
taxed or punished differently from
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Let us examine this issue further. Another Hadith from Prophet Muhammad
which is accepted by both Shi'ahs and Sunnis is mentioned by Ibn-i Babuyih
known as Sheikh Sadoogh in Kamal-ud-Din. This Hadith is from Said-ibn-i
Jabir who reports it from Ibn-i Abbas, who heard it
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Implications of the term `Day of Resurrection'
Prophet Muhammad said:
Halaal-o Muhammad-en halaal-o ilaa yaoum-el ghyaamate va haraamahoo haram
ilaa yaoum-el ghyaamate.
Which translates to:
Whatever was made lawful by Me [i.e. Muhammad. KH] shall remain lawful
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The term `Nabi'/`Prophet' has been used in the past Scriptures including the
Qur'an in two ways. The understanding of this is crucial in discussing this
topic
Universally, the Prophets are of two kinds. One are the independent Prophets
Who are followed; the other kind
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WHAT DO WE UNDERSTAND BY LASTNESS?
To every people is a term appointed: when their term is reached not an hour
can they cause delay nor (an hour) can they advance.
Qur'an 7:34
O children of Adam, verily apostles from among you shall come unto you, who
shall expound
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Baha'u'llah, similar to Adam is viewed as the inaugurator of a new cycle (In
this cycle the intent is not to build a house, per above mentioned Hadith's
terminology, but to build a city.) which is to last 500,000 years (compared
to 6000 years of Adamic cycle.), within
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On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Firouz fir...@thai-bahais.org wrote:
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Hi Gilberto,
Even though Baha'is may talk about Baha'is and non-Baha'is, we still believe
in equality of rights for all humans. All have equal rights and
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Recently there was again so much discussion on various lists on Muh.ammad
“sealing” all future Prophethood.
In the middle of the discussion I wrote this.
It may be of interest to you too.
According to all the Prayer Books of the Shi’his and most
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