Re: Unity of nations

2009-02-08 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hey, Sen... I'm not sure why you would rule out the 100 years within which I speak interpretation of both quotes you offered. Spiritual Assemblies WERE established in the century in which `Abdu'l-Baha wrote the words, right? Also, why couldn't the teachings of

Re: Unity of nations

2009-02-08 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Sorry...I had question I forgot to ask: What is the term/phrase/etc. in Arabic or Persian that means 100-year span of time? Does one exist? Did Baha'u'llah or Abdu'l-Baha use this term/phrase, ever? Ben On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl

Re: Unity of Nations

2009-01-13 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Sen... You said: I've been asked a couple of times which language I think young Bahai scholars should learn first, Persian or Arabic? When asked in France, I replied, French; when asked in England I replied, English. By that I mean that a study of the

Re: Unity of nations

2009-01-05 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Sen, I understand that, below, Shoghi Effendi is reminding us about what `Abdu'l-Baha has said. He's not just quoting `Abdu'l-Baha, however; he is using the term 'century' himself. If it was only `Abdu'l-Baha using this term, and we had His definition to guide

Re: peaking of realiy and meaning ang geometry

2008-08-05 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Hey, John... I don't know if you noticed this before, and you can pass the info on to whomever it matters, but there is a discrepancy between the two drawings; on the 'original' drawing, the grades in the spiritual kingdom, which are infinite in series and progression, at their highest attainable

Re: Jewish/Arab Peace Song

2008-03-27 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Does this conversation count as a quarrel, a conflict, a dispute? On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Richard H. Gravelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My initial statement was to the effect: The problem, if you will is that nether has accepted the Faith. It is my opinion that failure to obey God

Re: House letter to me

2008-03-13 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear David, It seems to me the point of the first letter is that the Universal House of Justice does not want to legislate every part of Baha'i life, including what movies you should/should not watch. In response, essentially, you've again asked them to legislate upon an issue (should Baha'i

Re: House letter to me

2008-02-18 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear David, It seems to me, based upon my reading of what the Universal House of Justice has said to you, it's your responsibility to determine this for yourself, and only for yourself (and perhaps your family if you are a parent). If the Universal House of Justice does not see it fit to

Re: Religion must be the cause of unity

2007-04-20 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Might I suggest that, if a particular comment or question is not appropriate for this venue, we simply state that and redirect an individual toward a more appropriate place to get their question answered? Ben On 4/20/07, Chase Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, If you just think about

Re: to say the truth

2007-02-22 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear Brent (or others), Who is the Master quoting in this passage? Just as an aside, it seems, paradoxically, that even though something may be 'true,' it may be wrong to say it, depending upon the circumstances. Another quote from Ben Franklin touches on the same theme: Remember not only to

Re: Participation of non-Baha'is in core activities

2007-02-14 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Might I suggest that, if a particular comment or question is not appropriate for this venue, we simply state that and redirect an individual toward a more appropriate place to get their question answered? Ben On 2/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - Original Message

Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc.

2007-01-07 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear Loïc, It doesn't appear to me that your simple example A simple word of the Faith : the Bayan, which could be easily translated in french by l'Annonce or l'Explication, but people are so afraid to translate that they keep the Bayan in their writings. is, at all, an example of baha'i

Re: Is there free will in the next world?

2006-06-07 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear Friends,I'm no authority, but it seems to me that, even though I think it's pretty safe to say that tests and trials result from free-will choices that we make, not all options that we freely choose from are necessarily good vs. evil. When I give a gift to my children, a gift that I've

Re: Some help

2006-02-07 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear Rich,Thanks for the email. Would this Muslim consider himself 'devout'? That's an interesting arrangement (regarding Feast); I'd never heard that before, and I guess it still preserves the Baha'i-onlyness of the business portion, right? Would your friends mind receiving questions from

Re: Some help

2006-02-07 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
haveimplications for the marriage.-GilbertoOn 2/7/06, Rich Ater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin La Framboise wrote: Dear Rich, Thanks for the email.Would this Muslim consider himself 'devout'? That's an interesting arrangement (regarding Feast); I'd never heard that before, and I guess it still

Some help

2006-02-06 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dearest friends,I have a little favor to ask, and I'm only reluctant because I'm afraid it's not really related to Baha'i Studies. I'm just not sure where else to turn.I have a couple of friends, a Baha'i and a Muslim, both devout, who would like to get married. The friend who is Muslim had

Re: Judaism 101 was Re: kalimat- accepting apparent disagreements over interpretation of the writings

2006-01-26 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
For those interested in more about atheistic/agnostic Jews (at least of the type that I am more familiar) here's an entry from Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanistic_Judaism Gilberto, you said: I know of Muslims who drink alcohol. I know of Bahais who drink and do hallucinogens. I

Re: Judaism 101 was Re: kalimat- accepting apparent disagreements over interpretation of the writings

2006-01-25 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
There seems to be a reoccuring problem on this list; we continue to have conversations that degrade quickly and cause hurt feelings.Gilberto, I know you feel Susan is behaving in an insulting way (I'm not judging one way or the other, but just adding my observations), but, and I'm only

Re: The Universal House of Justice

2006-01-12 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
For example, when Scottwas trying to explain what *he* meant by interpret and elucidatate he didn't whip out a super-secret Bahai decoder ring. Okay, who told Gilberto about the decoder rings? Ben :) The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is

Re: kalimat

2006-01-08 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
I haven't heard or read other Baha'is/non-Baha'is voice the viewpoint that I'm about to share, so I hope you find it worth reading. I've come to think of our particular brand of the Baha'i Faith (for those of us who include the Universal House of Justice as a part of our Faith) as an

Re: Speed of Light

2005-11-19 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear Gilberto, I think another option (I'm not suggesting you only think there are two; in fact, I know you've already acknowledged there might be other stances or responses [when you said, at least two...]) would be that true science and true religion offer views of Reality from two

Re: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear Gilberto, I really like the fact that you've provided Karen Armstrong's explanation of the account of Banu Qurayzah; I have a suggestion, though. We've long passed the line of scholarly debate and are into the realm of what seems to me purely apologetics, and under these circumstances,

Arguers Annonymous

2005-10-27 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Is there ANY way we can make these conversations more constructive? I'm referring, specifically to the Interesting Thread thread, which I started in an attempt to veer away from the other thread I started which turned into a bicker-fest. Honestly, I think we ALL need to move away from

Re: A couple of questions

2005-10-15 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
As for non-canonical Gospels, only the Gospel of Thomas is any where near contemporary. There are certainly many scholars who would question whether theBiblical gospels are contemporary.Dear Gilberto, I think what Susan means is that only the Gospel of Thomas is contemporary with the other

Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-12 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Perhaps my understanding needs refinement; I guess this is just part of my interpretation of what I've read; do you know the relevant passages that state the Baha'i teachings on the Qur'an? Even though unadulterated may not have been used, would it be inaccurate to use that word to describe

A couple of questions

2005-10-08 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dearest friends, These questions aren't directly related to Baha'i scholarship, but I hope they are close enough to warrant a response. First of all, does anyone know information about Rashad Khalifa? I've found some cursory items from just browsing the net, but I'm looking for a little