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A new posting on the protecting power of the Covenant. Feel free to
share the link to my Covenant blog.
http://bahai-covenant.blogspot.com/2010/12/covenant-protects-from-schism.html
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Adib asked for this story:
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The story of Haji Muhammad would not be complete without referring to
one of his noble qualities, namely, his utter obedience to the Centre of
the Cause. There was a time when Haji Muhammad had a business concern in
'Akká. One day
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Dear friends:
In recent years, a recording has come to light from Saichiro Fugita, a
Japanese believer who accompanied Abdu'l-Baha on His journey through the
western United States in 1912. Abdu'l-Baha then urged him to gain a
knowledge of electricity and in
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Dear friends:
I have posted an article about the divine guidance flowing to the House
of Justice during the enactment of legislation, and addressing the
passage from Shoghi Effendi's Dispensation letter in which he speaks
of the role of the Guardian in the process
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The Magnificent Character of the Greatest Holy Leaf
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:09:05 -0700 (PDT)
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To:
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Stephen, your statement that only 10% of the Covenant-breaker websites
is negative, demonstrates the problem, and your unawareness of the
situation.
While discussing these ideas with deepened Baha'is, reading the Sacred
Text and the Master's Last Tablet to
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The danger in reading Covenant breaker sites is often not that the
person will be in danger of following these groups; it is that they
destroy one's faith. The confusing answers of Mr. Grey, and his
statement that he is leaving religion altogether, make the point
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http://why-a-bahai.blogspot.com/2010/08/1-because-of-bahai-prayers.html
Why I am a Baha'i -- the first of a series of postings.
Later posts will include: Because of the Baha'i plan for peace; because
Baha'u'llah fulfills Bible prophecy; because it makes sense;
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Don Calkins wrote:
Seems to me that one of your articles should at least touch on the
claim that various pretenders to the station of Guardian are
legitimized thru' being adopted into the Aghsan...
One of the interesting things is, as I see it, that Remey never
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A new posting on this topic
http://bahai-insights.blogspot.com/2010/08/lover-dry-in-sea.html
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I believe that it was on this list that someone recently asked about the
third subtle entity passage attributed to Baha'u'llah. Someone then
correctly pointed out that this was a quote from Rosemary Sala in an
article in the Baha'i World published in 1937.
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One of the Baha'is wrote:
...both Prophethood Messengership are sealed by Prophet Muhammad.And Bab and
Baha'u'llah are Manifestations of God; that is quite different from those previous
stations.
Shoghi Effendi states that Baha'u'llah is referred to in the
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The Qur'an is very emphatic at times about the equality of
all the prophets with statements like we make no distinction between any o=
f
them, yet it also says we have exalted some above others. The latter
phrase has been used for centuries to claim that Muhammad
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Dear friends:
I have prepared a new posting about the individuals mentioned in the
Tablets of the Divine Plan. These are, in my personal view, among those
Baha'is who fulfilled Bible prophecy.
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1.
1772. What is Commonly Called Evil spirits is Normally an Imaginary
Creation But Evil Exists Both in This World And The Next
In regard to your question concerning evil spirits and their
influence upon souls, Shoghi Effendi wishes me to inform you that what
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Dear Mary Lou:
Personally, I think that Mormons should primarily be approached as
Christians, only secondarily as Mormons. That is, that they are best
approached with the explanations in Some Answered Questions and the Book
of Certitude, about the Bible and Jesus
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I wonder if we have not seen the end of the phenomenon of Lesser
Prophets, with the close of the Cycle of Prophecy. Humanity used to get
these short bursts of inspired Minor Prophets, with their unassailable
moral integrity, upholding the divine standard and
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Shahram Rohani wrote:
dear Friends,
please note that Bahaullah has taught us that the size and number,or duration can not
be a logical reason for correctness of a faith.We should observe that the other
groups,like Azalis,have existed the same time.Or if we
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Perhaps The Proclamation of Baha'u'llah which includes Baha'u'llah's
summons to the Christian clergy -- including excerpts from the
Lawh-i-Aqdas; or that Tablet itself, though I suggest the former for the
Benedictine Monk.
However, if by divinity the priest means
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Stephen Gray asks:
Does the Baha'i Faith have a stance on wether or not there will be Baha'i
dependent prophets like during the Old Testament times (ie Issiah, Jeremiah,
Ezra, Nehemiah, Obadiah, Zafaniah, Zekariah,=A0Samuel, Ezekiel, Daniel, Joel,
etc.)of the
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The followers of Yahya did not break the Covenant of Baha'u'llah, they
broke the Covenant of the Bab. Shoghi Effendi refers to Yahya as the
Arch-breaker of the Covenant of the Bab around p. 164 or so of God
Passes By and there lists in detail his violations of
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1. On page 70 of Robert Weinberg's book Ethel Jenner Rosenberg there
is a pilgrim's note that Mrs. Rosenberg asked Abdu'l-Baha about the
seven churches in the Revelation of John. The Master reportedly
replied that the seven spirits and seven stars in Revelation
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The repetition of these statements made by the so-called Baha'is Under
the Provisions of the Covenant, and the hurt and shock we experience as
we hear them, brings something to mind.
There is a story -- now I cannot find the source of it -- of the time
after the
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Marangella is just confusing things, not clarifying them.
Both Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha had appointed Their Successors during
Their lifetimes, by specifying them in Their Wills, but had not made
their identities known, perhaps to protect their lives. However,
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Hello, I'm looking for a quotation from the writings
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The last three sentences also bear on your topic
Brent
Twelve hundred and seventy years have elapsed since the declaration of
Muhammad, and each year unnumbered people have circumambulated the House
of God [Mecca]. In the concluding year of this period He Who is
The quote from the Guardian is:
The fundamental difference, however, between this Dispensation and all
previous ones is this, that in this Revelation the possibility of
permanent schism between the followers of the Prophet has been prevented
through the direct and explicit instructions
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Gary wrote: There is a dimension to this that hasn't been brought up. If the
Guardian were to nominate a successor in a Will, and this choice were then rejected by
the Hands, there would be no opportunity for the deceased Guardian to nominate any other
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I believe that Susan is correct, there is a letter written on the
Guardian's behalf that was published in US Baha'i News -- but Ocean does
not include all of the years Baha'i News was published, and I don't have
a copy handy. It was a letter addressed to, of all
Does anyone have a source/elaboration/explanation for the idea that
Adam was expelled from the Garden for disagreeing with Satan?
Adam has a lot of symbolic meanings in Baha'i interpretation.
There is a book published by Kalimat Press of essays by Mirza
Abu'l-Fazl. One of them is his
.
Brent
Sen Sonja wrote:
On 26 Mar 2008 at 23:56, Brent Poirier Attorney wrote:
If one takes the statement that religious truth is not absolute, but
relative as a broad sweep about the nature of all Revelation, then
your
conclusions logically follow. But I respectfully disagree
Sen wrote:
. . . the statement religious truth is not
absolute, but relative is a meta-statement. It immediately
interprets and provides a framework for all Bahai truth-statements.
If a statement is absolute (When Yahya Darabi arrived at Shiraz he
interviewed the Bab three times.) it is not a
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Dear friends,
The
Matt Haase wrote:
I had a conversation like this with a friend of mine, who introduced
me to his idea that the 'relativity of religious truth' meant more than
another word to say 'progressive revelation'. He presented an eloquent,
but unconvincing (to my mind) argument that boils down to the
One of the friends mentioned: If all truth is relative then no proof is
absolute.
There are passages in the writings of the Guardian where he explained
that what he meant by the relativity of religious truth, is that
revealed truth is relative to the age in which it is revealed. That is,
of
Revelation that is subject to change by the Manifestation.
Also, I don't know what you mean when you say that truths are relative
to one another. If you get too philosophical, you may quickly lose me.
Best regards
Brent
Sen Sonja wrote:
On 24 Mar 2008 at 3:53, Brent Poirier Attorney wrote
It is my understanding that this phrase, joining partners with God,
means making someone God's equal. In Section XCIV of the Gleanings,
Baha'u'llah addresses this subject.
In the Hidden Words O Companion of My Throne, I personally think it is
Baha'u'llah addressing His followers. There are
Mr. Khadem stated that Shoghi Effendi referred to the Shrine of the Bab
as the throne of God mentioned in the Tablet of Carmel. In the
Kitab-i-Badi, Baha'u'llah interprets the throne as the Cause of God.
(Logos and Civilization p. 199)
Brent
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David wrote: I just wanted to get back to this as I was busy before.
What do people consider according to the Teachings as far as TV and
movies are concerned? If it means that they generally follow Baha'i
morals then that would exclude a large percentage of material.
I couldn't agree more.
Gilberto wrote:
But then does it make sense to say that they eventually crucified
that divine Spirit, the Word of God? Wouldn't these terms apply to
the spiritual aspect?
I think that here, the Master is referring to Jesus by these terms,
rather than only referring to His spiritual aspect; just
1. The Baha'i Writings state that Jesus was crucified:
When Christ appeared, twenty centuries ago, although the Jews were
eagerly awaiting His Coming, and prayed every day, with tears, saying:
'O God, hasten the Revelation of the Messiah,' yet when the Sun of Truth
dawned, they denied Him and
1. If a person wants to know what I think of his opinion, I'll offer my
own views, and my observations about where the opinion coincides with,
or veers from, the Baha'i teachings as I understand them.
I see that as quite different from being asked to pronounce on whether a
Baha'i is permitted
to the beginning of the marriage. Maybe that's it.
Brent
Sen Sonja wrote:
On 2 Jan 2008 at 6:23, Brent Poirier Attorney wrote:
However, I have never seen either the Guardian or the House of Justice
perform an analysis of the law of the Bab, to determine what the
meaning of a law
There is one law of Baha'u'llah which refers back to the Qur'anic law.
In the Tablet of Questions and Answers Baha'u'llah writes:
And in the matter of Zakat, We have likewise decreed that you should
follow what hath been revealed in the Qur'án. (Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 140)
However, as the House
I suggest that we may make assumptions about what Most Holy means.
That is, that it is supposed to create a spiritual atmosphere upon our
reading it. Or, that it is more spiritual than His other Writings; but
how could that be? All of His Writings come from the same Source.
Personally I
In my view, for Assembly meetings to be properly held, not only should
every Assembly member be informed of the date and time of the meeting,
but of the agenda, and with sufficient detail to know what is coming up.
The quote from the House implies this -- that a draft of the agenda is
to be
I know of two other people who are still alive who met the Master. I
heard of a woman living in Turkey who met the Master, though I have no
information at all about her -- where she is, where she met Him, her
name, etc.
About 3 or 4 years ago I was in touch with the family of a Christian
There are several references in the Baha'i Writings stating that the
Master says there are two Davids in the Bible. It could be found easily
in Ocean.
Brent
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This is not on a Baha'i subject. It has to do with teaching a college
course, and I'm writing because I know there are college profs on this list.
I am teaching an online class in business law at NMSU. In my own legal
education, I was furious because I didn't learn anything practical
(didn't
Shoghi Effendi wrote a beautiful prayer in Persian, enclosed with his
Naw-Ruz letter to the Persian friends in I believe 1955, which the House
of Justice translated for Mr. Khadem's article about the Mountain of God
which was published in the U.S. Baha'i News more than 30 years ago. It
is
My view:
1. Because the Manifestations of God deserve it.
In the Third Chapter of the Gospel of John it states:
Then took Mary a pound of very costly oil of spikenard, anointed the
feet of Jesus, and wiped His feet with her hair. And the house was
filled with the fragrance of the oil. But
It is almost impossible to say the truth everytime
There is the guidance in this Tablet from the Master that impacts on what
can be said.
Brent
'Not everything that a man knoweth can be disclosed, nor can everything
that he can disclose be regarded as timely, nor can every timely utterance
Husayn, I think that is a very good list, very complete.
However, I wish to suggest that listing these principles of the Faith still
does not give an accurate picture of what the Baha'i Faith is about.
In particular, these principles, which are mostly social principles, do not
speak of the
I have learned that following triple bypass surgery, Phil Lucas died earlier
today. God reward him for his services.
Brent
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A point of clarification on this:
This idea is from a passage in Promulgation of Universal Peace. The talks
in that book are not authenticated, so we cannot be sure exactly what
Abdu'l Baha said. I wouldn't put too much weight on a statement from
non-authenticated texts.
The Guardian
In the Qur'an when God calls out, the true believer answers affirmatively Yea
or Aye.
Amin Banani told me that this verse:
For there neither 'salam' nor 'alayk' can find a way.
means -- This is not a place for ordinary greetings.
Then it says to take off your shoes, for this is the valley of
The US balance of trade is at the highest unfavorable level in history. So
the US government agencies assist the largest exporters to sell their
products overseas, because it has a crucial beneficial economic impact on
the US balance of trade. Among the corporations that have the most
Yes Susan, I am in agreement that visions are not
accepted as physical matter. Was it not the
misinterpreted seeing of Him that was understood to
be a physical body resurrected, rather than the
spiritual vision of spiritual matter?
There are three kinds of seeing
-- seeing a person in the
why don't the resurrection narratives have the disciples going deaf and blind
after Jesus died and then receiving sight and hearing? Shouldn't there be some
consistency? Also, why aren't there any stories of the disciples being deaf
and blind initially?
I suggest that these are the verses
One can only hope those teenagers are looking for what we were looking
for 4 decades ago. Meaning! Genuine spirituality. A sense of the
mystic. None of which is really to be found in the world our
generation has build.
I am not very quick to elevate our generation to a more spiritual status
There is a similar passage, but not identical, in Promulgation. Otherwise, I
have no idea where the verse in question may have come from. The standards
for inclusion were apparently not very clear in Baha'i Scriptures.
Brent
Other wars are caused by purely imaginary racial differences; for
The question was recently asked by Gilberto, what Baha'i teachings are
emphasized. I have done a brief scan of Ocean and found these quotes; far
from a complete list.
Brent
The virtues and attributes pertaining unto God are all evident and manifest,
and have been mentioned and described in
It was clear to me on reading this article, that the reporter did not get a
number of things right:
There are 350,000 Bahai in Iran
Instead of Baha'is
Speaking of Shoghi Effendi as the Effendi
But we should not lose sight that it is a wonderful article, it shows the
Faith in a very good
I have the impression that the Shias have a stronger concept of the
sinlessness of prophets than most Sunnis. Is that generally true of
Bahais?
My impression is that the Baha'i view of the sinlessness of the Imams and of
Fatimih is very much in accord with the Shiah approach.
I feel like
I address this subject in some notes I put together; you really need to start
at the beginning to understand the part at the end that directly responds to
your question.
Brent
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23 May 1912
Talk at Home of Mr. and Mrs. Francis W. Breed
367 Harvard Street, Cambridge, Massachusetts
From Stenographic Notes
Scientific knowledge is the highest attainment upon the human plane, for
science is the discoverer of realities. It is of two kinds: material and
spiritual.
If by a minor Prophet you mean a Being who is sent to guide humanity, who
possesses infallibility, Who is intended by God that the people should follow
Him, then by implication the Master has stated that none will come.
If by a 'minor Prophet you mean someone with the *station* of a minor
Roy Mottahedeh's translation of Muhammad Baqir as-Sadr's Lessons in Islamic
Jurisprudence was published by Oneworld. I wanted to recommend his
Introduction to that book, which is a very cogent and helpful summary of the
sources and history of Islamic law. I am suggesting it not only when
I recall reading somewhere -- the Priceless Pearl? That when Shoghi Effendi
became the Guardian, the first thing he did was to sit down and read all of the
Writings at the World Centre.
I would not be surprised to learn that when new members are elected to the
House of Justice, there is a
Among the passages in the Baha'i Writings using the word 'ismat are the
following.
Brent
Aqdas p. 36 -- the Most Great *Infallibility*
Master's Will p. 11: under the shelter and *unerring* guidance of His Holiness,
the Exalted One
beneath the shadow of His supreme and *infallible* authority.
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Maxwell School ranked 64th out of 279 secondary schools in B.C. Canada;
higher than all the public schools, and 3rd among the private schools in its
area.
Brent
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I am interested in connecting Baha'is and spouses of Baha'is who are
familiar with wind and solar energy research and applications, to the Barli
institute, an SED project of the NSA of India. Please have them contact me
and I'll put them in touch.
Thanks
Brent
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Thus it hath been made clear that these stages depend on the vision of the
wayfarer. In every city he will behold a world, in every Valley reach a
spring, in every meadow hear a song. But the falcon of the mystic heaven
hath many a wondrous carol of the spirit in His breast, and the Persian
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Subject: re: Quote about recognition
Is it this line from the Lawh-i-Aqdas?
Verily, We behold all created things moved to bear witness unto Us. Some
know Us and bear witness, while the majority bear witness,
I am looking for a passage in the Writings -- I believe it is in one of the
Tablets or addresses of the Master; I thought it was in Some Answered
Questions but I can't find it there. It says something along the lines of
some people are under the sway of the Revelation and know it; and some are
I think that this is one of the instances of bada'a in the Writings. Here is is
translated as creation: . . . the Beauty of the Unseen hath shone forth
above the horizon of creation Prayers and Meditations p. 311.
Khazeh Fananapazir once said that bada'a is from the same root as Badi’. I
10. QUESTION: Shaving the head hath been forbidden in the
Kitáb-i-Aqdas but enjoined in the Suriy-i-Hajj.
ANSWER: All are charged with obedience to the
Kitáb-i-Aqdas; whatsoever is revealed therein is
the Law of God amid His servants. The injunction
on pilgrims to the sacred House to shave the
The quotes the Guardian gathered in the Dispensation state as explicitly as
any subject in the Baha'i Writings that it will be not less than 1000 years
before the next Manifestation. The Covenant, unlike other subjects in the
Faith (like the mystical teachings) are not hidden and waiting to be
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There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and
Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome (King James Bible,
Mark 15:40)
James the Less was named Jacob. If you Google Mary the mother of Jacob in
quotes you will find a number of references to her.
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My first thought is that more faith in the guidance of the House of Justice
will come largely through more faith in Baha'u'llah.
Yes; and also, through more faith in, and understanding of, the Master's Will,
which broadens and re-emphasizes the guidance of God to the House of Justice.
Brent
Article about a Baha'i on the Emory University faculty in the American
Studies Department, Pellom McDaniels, who was previously a pro football
player on the Kansas City and Atlanta football teams:
http://tinyurl.com/8vpw5
Here is a photo of him:
As already posted, the Master uses the term Sign of God once in His Will and
Testament, to show the station of Shoghi Effendi. In the original, Sign of God
is ayat Allah, generally written in the West as Ayatollah.
Yes, one more beautiful Arabic word hijacked by extremists, along with Party of
Can someone direct me to an online source for the letter of the House of
Justice instituting the binding practice of recitation of the Greatest Name
95 times?
Thanks
Brent
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In unraveling the mystery of the Hidden Treasure tradition, the Master
explains that it refers to the gradual movement of the Manifestation from
concealment to Manifestation, and that the tree aflame symbolizes one of the
stages:
O wayfarer in the path of the Beloved! Know thou that the
Sure. In my own case, I read and understood the Baha'i Writings stating that
Muhammad was a Prophet of God equal to Christ and Baha'u'llah. It took me ten
years to accept that.
Brent
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I couldn't find that letter either on Ocean or on bahai-library.com but perhaps
this will be of service.
Brent
In spite of the fact that ... has been expelled from the Gilbert and Ellice
Islands, the remarkable progress of the Faith there has been a source of great
satisfaction. It shows that
I recall something along that line but don't know where it was
Brent
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Dear
Bah'u'llh has placed great emphasis on the duties of parents toward their
children, and he has urged children to have gratitude in their hearts for their
parents, whose good pleasure they should strive to win as a means of pleasing
God himself.
(January 24, 1993 letter from the Universal House
The House is elected ultimately by the National Spiritual Assembly members, and
as you point out, those Assemblies may have huge disparities in numbers.
At the next lower level, the delegates to the National Convention are from
Units that are designed to be roughly comparable population-wise.
These are all extracts taken from a memorandum of the Research Department to
the Universal House of Justice dated 14 December 1987.
Brent
...we cannot be sure how much or how little of the four Gospels are accurate
and include the words of Christ and His undiluted teachings, all we can be sure
In the Holy Books, the recognition of the Manifestation is presented
symbolically in many different ways. Symbols using all five of the senses are
employed -- seeing the Prophet means recognizing Him (Luke 24:16 and 24:31);
as does eating His body (Mark 14:22) and touching His body (Luke 5:13;
In a Baha'i liberation theology, what role, if any, should Baha'is play in
freeing the poor from oppressive capitalism? Will we be judged if we do not?
What did you have in mind as a means of freeing the poor from oppressive
capitalism?
I'll later return to the question of why are you limiting
Importers, such as the U.S., have little incentive to protest; and any outrage
is drowned out by the demand for cheaper goods
Mark, please clarify. I doubt there is a nation on the planet that is not an
importer.
Well, the economic abuse of migrant workers is still going on.
To remedy the
22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him,
and saying, 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 22:37
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and
with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
22:38 This is the
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The basic meaning is, I believe, very inexpensive, rough clothing. In
relatively recent times, sackcloth was typically tho't of as feedsack
material. From this, the meaning could be that the wearers would be
poor and possibly
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