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Dear Hasan,
If the following passage does not answer your question, read SAQ #38 and #39.
Greetings,
Dean Betts
The third station is that of the divine appearance and heavenly splendor: it is
the Word of God, the Eternal Bounty, the Holy Spirit. It has neither
.
Thanks,
Hasan
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Enviado: Viernes, 4 de enero, 2013 5:40 P.M.
Asunto: Re: looking for a Tablet of Bahá'u'lláh where
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Dear Hasan,
My understanding is that the writings of 'Abdu'l-Baha have the same effect as
legislation, as do the writings of Shoghi Effendi.
Greetings,
Dean B.
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Dear Hasan,
The following passages from Notes to Kitab-i-Aqdas should clarify this subject.
Dean B.
While the text of the Kitáb-i-Aqdas appears to permit
bigamy, Bahá'u'lláh counsels that tranquillity and contentment
derive from monogamy. In another Tablet, He
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When you pray for something, what effect does it have on it actually
coming
about?
Praying for something to happen is probably the lowest form of prayer
there is. I pray to draw nearer to God, and yes, it has an effect of
helping
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Well have (had) the Bee Gees ever heard of Baha'u'llah?
It's one thing to imagine that's what you hear, if you're Baha'i.
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Welcome back, Professor!
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Please, where can I find Baha'u'llah's own description of his Revelation in the
Siya-Chal?
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Isn't there a description somewhere of the Maid of Heaven appearing during
the time when He was reveiving the Revelation?
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Isn't there a description somewhere of the Maid of Heaven appearing during
the time when He was reveiving the Revelation?
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The vitality of men's belief in God is dying out in every land; nothing short
of His wholesome medicine can ever restore it. The corrosion of ungodliness is
eating into the vitals of human society; what else but the Elixir of His potent
Revelation can cleanse and
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Could someone please post a link to the photo of himself, that Abdu'l-Baha is
said to have preferred?
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Why would I want to victimize myself or my children or grandchildren?
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Subject: CS Lewis
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a source. The evil exist but it is the absence of light.
It seems the next world is not all light. It seems in both worlds there
are problems, we advance trough tests and struggles.
--- El dom, 5/30/10, Dean Betts fdbe...@mindspring.com escribió:
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Lucifer is a Latin word (from the words lucem ferre), literally meaning
light-bearer, which in that language is used as a name for the dawn
appearance of the planet Venus, heralding daylight. Use of the word in this
sense is uncommon in English, in which Day Star or
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I was very sad to read this.
I did not know this.
I thought maybe we could say goodbye to evil when we die...guess not.
Is this considered authorative, that evil exerts a very strong influence in
the NEXT world?
Who was writing on behalf of the Guardian on November 1,
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In SAQ Chapter 74, Abdu'l-Baha states that evil is non-existent.
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I think many of us may not be aware of Majnun shadow list.
You may
be aware of the controversy which raged over the Talisman-Majnun
lists, most especially the accidental Majnun post which revealed the
existence of the Majnun shadow list. The discussion on Majnun
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I think I have read somewhere in the Writings that even a Covenant breaker
can be reinstated if they truly repent (my word, not theirs).
...especially if disenrollment is intended to be a life-time
situation, meaning that disenrolled Bahais will be a permanent part
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Where does 'Abdu'l-Baha state that the reason that only men can serve on the
Universal House will become apparent in future?
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Who or what is Murad (in tablet below)?
(diacritic over the a in Murad)
'Give My remembrance to the one named Murad and say: 'Blessed art thou, O
Murad, inasmuch as thou didst cast away the promptings of thine own desire and
hast followed Him Who is the Desire of
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John,
Great stuff.
How can we determine when (in the 19th Century) the prior solar eclipses
occurred in Iran?
Dean
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Why does Shoghi Effendi assert that the Qur'an is more authentic than the Bible?
... the Qur'án, which book is more authentic than the Bible, including both the
New and Old Testaments. The Bible is not wholly authentic, and in this respect
not to be compared with
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More directly, 'Ali refers to the Blessed Bab, secondly to the Imam 'Ali.
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The Hands of the Cause of God must elect from their own number nine persons
that shall at all times be occupied in the important services in the work of
the Guardian of the Cause of God. The election of these nine must be carried
either unanimously or by majority from
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Any ideas as to the symbolic meaning of sacred snow-white spot from The
Tablet of the Holy Mariner ?
Please see below:
Perchance they may not tarry in the sacred snow-white spot,
Glorified be my Lord, the All-Glorious!
(Compilations, Baha'i Prayers, p. 221)
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Could anyone give a URL for Russian Translation of the Tablet of the Holy
Mariner?
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DEAR DR.S.MANECK,
IT SEEMS THAT YR WORDS ARE FULL OF ANGER TOWARD THE IRAN STATE
AND THE BAHAIS LIKE ME WHO TRY TO FIND A MIDDLE WAY TO GET OUT OF THE CURRENT
CRISIS,ACCORDING TO THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF FAITH.
-I KNOW
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Perhaps all this demonstrates that neither the Guardian nor the Universal
House of Justice are (nor have they claimed to be) prophets.
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Nor, for that matter, was `Abdu'l-Baha.
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Perhaps all
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If prayer can cure a physical disorder, then why not a mental one?
Do you believe that prayer can sometimes cure physical discoders?
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Please study William Hatcher's proof.
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An excellent point. I think there will never be a convincing, logical
proof
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Recently I came across a quote from Abdu'l-Baha that I cannot find in OCEAN.
The gist of the quote is something like:
The sweetest thing in the world is prayer.
Has anyone seen a quote very close to this?
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Is it unusual for one to earn a PhD, without first getting the Masters degree?
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Hi Mark,
Do you think a Baha'i could hold any one of these views?
Didn't you leave out montheism?
Thanks,
Dean
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Someone may be interested in the following link:
http://juxta.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,2/Itemid,33/
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I come to a similar conclusion, but argued from the Bahai writings,
in _Church and State_ (that the names and attributes of God are
ontologically distinct. page 261). Not of course for oaks and dogs
(since there is name of God The Dog
is this a joke?
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Don't the Writing state somewhere that no progress is possible without
suffering?
Would anyone have references for this?
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Please name a spiritual truth that requires a concrete proof.
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Subject: RE: The Brilliant Proof
You won't find concrete proofs of any spiritual truth because there is no
The truth is its own proof.
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david.
totally. to be able to prove the Faith it would have to be outside of It.
the
not a COMPANION OF HIS THRONE be at least a minor partner?
Therefore, I am thinking that this Persian Hidden Word #44 must be addressed to
the Blessed Beauty.
But, Persian Hidden Word #44, does not appear to be addressed to Baha'u'llah.
Please share your thoughts on this.
Happy Naw-Ruz,
Dean Betts
, t|?
Mike and Susan are spot (right) on!
Dean Betts
i happen to regard both your statement as well as susan's as a generic
insults...regardless of the book in question. if that was directed to me
there would be more than a smattering of verbage fired back in the general
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Who are you, t|?
Mike and Susan are spot (right) on!
Dean Betts
i happen to regard both your statement as well as susan's
Richard,
Just curious, why not say it in English?
That way, those of us who don't read latin don't have to look it up.
The Lord be with you,
Dean
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How about the Crusades as an example of Ancient sectarian conflicts,
apparently unresponsive to the patient arts of diplomacy, (that) have
reemerged with a virulence as great as anything known
before.?
A few comments -
Ancient sectarian conflicts - For the most part, Fundamentalist Christians
I found it a mixture of incomprehensible sentences, arrogance and
exclusiveness.
Please give examples.
Not really worthy of a Baha'i publication. I started to tentatively agree
with the generality of some of the ideas but typically ended up feeling their
arguments were hard to
Interesting that the glossary of my Kitab-i-Iqan says the Bayan ...should be
regarded primarily as a euology of the Promised One
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To observe a day of rest on either Friday or Sunday is not observing
the Ten Commandments which explicitly gives the Sabbath (Saturday) as
the day of rest. I'm not sure why both Christians and Baha'is seem to
think those laws were perennial.
It appears to me that the other Nine Commandments are
Does anyone dare think that Deconstructionism would fall into one of the
branches of knowledge referred to below?
The Great Being saith: The learned of the day must direct the people to
acquire those branches of knowledge which are of use, that both the learned
themselves and the generality of
Gilberto wrote:
No, I haven't forgotten about cogito ergo sum and all that. I'm
willing to concede that is a fairly persuasive argument. And so,
firstly, when I think of skepticism, I would mainly have in mind
opinions about the outside world. But secondly, I would just insert
that if you look
Gilberto wrote:
No, I haven't forgotten about cogito ergo sum and all that. I'm
willing to concede that is a fairly persuasive argument. And so,
firstly, when I think of skepticism, I would mainly have in mind
opinions about the outside world. But secondly, I would just insert
that if you look at
Did Baha'u'llah, either explicitly or implicitly, repeal, or render irrelevant,
all the laws of the Bayan?
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Michael,
Where does Socrates seem to claim revelation?
Thanks,
Dean
Socrates and Plato are among the most influential teachers of the western
world and still have followers and admirers today and this, not because of
their claims to revelation (something Socrates does seem to claim) but
What's it been now, a couple of years?
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He lives! The Hidden Mark Foster has returned from the Major Occultation.
On 7/13/07, Mark
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From: Dean Betts
To: Baha'i Studies
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 11:47 PM
Subject: The Tabernacle of Unity
To whom does the pronoun His (below) refer?
The Tabernacle of Unity, last sentence of page 37 (paragraph 2.32):
Supreme Infallibility, as I once heard from His
Is "One" the name of a character in this book?
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I thought it might help to actually quote from the text of the
book:
"
Physically, I am old.
Spiritually, I consider myself young.
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Well, maybe the Master knew that Avarih would become a covenant
breaker...
Anyway, most hard drug addicts are hard to cure.
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I can't get the link to work.
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Date: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:36 pm
Subject: Lincoln's Statement
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The Baha'is do not have a temple in Haifa. We have shrines. Why
would Mr. Lincoln
The Baha'is do not have a temple in Haifa. We have
shrines. Why would Mr. Lincoln refer to the "temple"?
"Hizbullah would think it pretty neat if they
destroyed our temple," said Albert Lincoln, secretary-general of the Baha'i
International Community in Haifa, said Thursday.
Where is it in DAWNBREAKERS where it says (paraphrasing) that
we become a Baha'i because of something we have done in the past?
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receipt?
First, Will someone please let me know whether this gets posted to the
bahai-st list. The list never lets me see my own posts, so I never know
if my note got through unless someone responds.
The
spiritual reality, not
about the appearance of the physical body.
Dean Betts
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Why can't I find castrophizing in any dictionary?
Is the
light your castrophizing about the future of the Baha'i community?
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June 16, 1912 was a Sunday
Dear Friends,
There are some varying accounts as to the actual date 'Abdul-Baha addressed
the Congregational Church in Brooklyn, NY. One account from SOW
(Stenographic
notes by Miss Esther Foster) placed this talk on June 15, 1912. Mahmud
Zarqani's Diary, PUP, and
The quotes the Guardian gathered in the Dispensation state as explicitly as
any subject in the Baha'i Writings that it will be not less than 1000 years
before the next Manifestation. The Covenant, unlike other subjects in the
Faith (like the mystical teachings) are not hidden and waiting to be
Short bio on the late Dr. Hatcher here:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/bahai/bahai_feb16.zip/bio.html
From the above site:
"Professor Hatcher is listed as one of eight Platonist
philosophers of the second half of the twentieth century. In the Encyclopdie
Philosophique Universelle (Presses
Here is one of my favorite articles by Dr. Hatcher on
THE LOGICAL PROOF OF GOD'S EXISTENCE:
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http://bahai-library.com/?file=hatcher_bw18_spirituality
http://bahai-library.com/?file=hatcher_foundations_mathematics
http://bahai-library.com/?file=hatcher_human_nature_society
http://www.onecountry.org/e144/e14416as_Minimalism_Review.htm
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Who was the first to refer to the Guardian as the sign of God
on earth?
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Is it permissible to celebrate the Birth of
Baha'u'llahafter sunset on Nov.
12?
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Could someone send me Dr. John Hatcher's email address?
That's John not William
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Well said, Ben.
Unfortunately we all live in an argumentative world which is considered
natural, normal and good by many people.
Ifa Baha'i culture were to exist it certainly not include such
one-upmanship.
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Importers, such as the U.S., have little incentive to protest; and any
outrage is drowned out by the demand for cheaper goods
Mark, please clarify. I doubt there is a nation on the planet that is not
an importer.
Perhaps Mark means net importer.
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Could it be the same reason why we refer to Baha'u'llah
instead of "the Glory of God"?
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I would like to understand why
ALL Bahais, no matter what side of the argument they are on, will say
they
believe in the independent investigation of truth but then the
difference
will be what they mean by the phrase.
That much is true. But there are some Baha'is who take the position that
the
independent search for truth ends
As I understand it, and having tried them, anti-depressants work so slowly
they don't qualify to be classed as mood altering.
I don't think there is any doubt that mood altering drugs are
over-prescribed.
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Were any of the all-embracing Manifestations of God to declare: I am God,
He, verily, speaketh the truth, and no doubt attacheth thereto.
(Baha'u'llah: Gleanings, Page: 54)
At lunch I was talking to a person from Indonesia who is a catholic
and talked to him at length about the faith and
What I am suggesting is that we each have a responsibility to promote the
best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth, to the best of our
knowledge, understanding, and capacity, even if it means promoting ideas
that seem to us to contradict what the Universal House of Justice has
Would someone please give the original subject name of the thread referred
to below?
1) First, I want to thank Jim and others who have contributed to this thread
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Jim,
The examples I gave, in my first post in this thread, were responses that
some other people gave, when I asked the same question in the Baha'i Online
Library forum.
How does one become a member of the Baha'i Online Library forum?
Thanks,
Dean Betts
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This is an example of hyperbole used often by the Manifestions. I think
there is a special word for this device...maybe someone else knows?
JS wrote:
This is in regards to Baha'u'llah's fast prayers that begins with
These are, O my God, the days whereon Thou didst enjoin Thy servants
to
What new (temporary?) guideline?
Gilberto Simpson wrote:
I'm not objecting to the direction the conversation is taking but I'm
curious what the limits are in terms of this new (temporary?) guidline
restricting the subject matter?
Peace
Gilberto
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I believe the Baha'i version of the "Golden Rule" is significantly
different, although I notice a similar Qur'anic reference to the same
concept in a more specific context:
Charity is pleasing and praiseworthy in the sight of God and is
regarded as a prince among goodly deeds. Consider ye and
a Rasul. If that is true, then
Muhammad's claim to be the last of the prophets, does not negate
Baha'u'llah's claim, because Baha'u'llah didn't claim to be a prophet
of the kind Muhammad was.
Dean Betts
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Derrida was a great man. But his interpreters may have interpreted him in
an
arid way. God rest his soil
Did you mean soul?
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Dear Susan,
Is it against list rules to forward messages to bahai-st from other lists?
If it is, I am sorry to have done so.
I did not know who this person was, and I thought, since he was challenging
Baha'i scholars to a debate, bahai-st would put him in contact with some
competent defenders of
Can anyone please tell me whether Tablets of Baha'u'llah (Revealed after
the Kitab-i-Aqdas) has been translated into Russian?
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Mark,
Sorry to hear about your foot.
Hope you feel better soon.
What is this new list you're creating?
Dean
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From another list:
Dear Friends: Although I don't usually pass on
news items, I thought that this one was quite interesting in light of our
teachings. I wonder whether any Baha'is are involved in this
conference.
Love to all,
Science Religion in Context
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Dear Mark,
Would it be possible to know the specialties of each of our members? At one
time did we not ask each member to submit a short biographical email?
Thanks,
Dean
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invite you to contemplate.
(The Universal House of Justice, 1988 Dec 29, Individual Rights and
Freedoms, p. 1)
Dean Betts
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Please, what is an NRM?
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Mark, do you know if the House would agree with
this statement?
Mark is speaking from a sociological, not a theological perspective.
Besides, the House of Justice doesn't write the dictionary.
Nevertheless, I do not think they would agree that the Faith is a
cult.
How many
According to the following two definitions, all of the major religions could
be called cults, the Baha'i Faith perhaps less so in that we have less
ritual.
1 : formal religious veneration
2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
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