Re: Luke 21:33 the Qur'an

2005-01-14 Thread Ronald Stephens
Dear Brent, Your wrote: Ron, it's clear from your last word, where you have been reading. Just as critical thinking is an important part of examination of revealed religious truth, so is evaluation of what others write about religion. Where exactly are they leading you? To where they

Questions about Omniscience and related matters

2004-12-28 Thread Ronald Stephens
Dr. Maneck, I understand that you and many others on this List, and many Baha’i scholars and Administrators believe in Omniscience at Will, Omnipotence at Will, and other similar concepts that I have difficulty with. I would sincerely like to better understand how you maintain these beliefs

Re: The Baha'i Praises of Islam

2004-12-17 Thread Ronald Stephens
Hello Gilberto and Mark, Gilberto wrote: In the Bahai writings I think Paul is described as a saint and an apostle and a most faithful servant of Jesus and his epistles are quoted from as well. I guess, that just implies a certain amount of respect but doesn't necessarily imply infallibility.

Re: The Baha'i Praises of Islam

2004-12-17 Thread Ronald Stephens
Mark wrote: If it were up to me, I would end it today. However, as time goes on, review may become increasingly irrelevant anyway. For instance, how will the fact that Google is about to digitize several major libraries relate to the absence of a global policy regarding online review? Well,

RE: Science and the Future of Religion

2004-12-13 Thread Ronald Stephens
Susan, what a beautiful concept you describe below. Your pre-modern mind was always more open to miracles than mine, would that mine were more like yours! Susan wrote: I mentioned the Asharites who shared this perception. They saw existence as made up of atoms, but these atoms were not

re: Science and the Future of Religion

2004-12-13 Thread Ronald Stephens
Brent, Thanks for your kind comments (and for listening to me so thoughtfully). I am meditating upon your thoughts as I work this week. Hopefully I will digest my frustrations and get over them. ;-))) __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as:

Re: Ether and Evolution and Infallibility

2004-12-10 Thread Ronald Stephens
Brent, thank you for a very thoughtful reply. It certainly helps me to understand how you think about these kinds of issues and why you believe as you do. I think that there probably are many Baha's who have similar views as yours. Your thoughtful analysis and sensitive approach are

RE: Book of Daniel fulfilled

2004-12-10 Thread Ronald Stephens
Hello James adn thank you for your comments, James Mock wrote: What is a known law? If you had asked people 600 years ago, they would have proven to you that the world is flat. We cannot accept things known today as scientific fact. . James, what you say is certainly ture in some instances.

Can the Baha'i Faith be a Big Tent or not?

2004-12-10 Thread Ronald Stephens
While encouraging those Baha’is who are upset about the Ruhi Method to get over it and move on, Dick Detweiler wrote : “Surely the tent is big enough for that?” I agree with him and I am not too concerned about the Ruhi methods. I have attended Ruhi classes and they don’t bother me, although

Re: Can the Baha'i Faith be a Big Tent or not?

2004-12-10 Thread Ronald Stephens
correct in my impression? I believe that Baha'u'lah would make the same criticism today of Baha'i attitudes, that He made when He wrote the Book of Certitude. On Friday, December 10, 2004, at 09:27AM, Ronald Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While encouraging those Baha’is who are upset about

RE: Book of Daniel fulfilled

2004-12-10 Thread Ronald Stephens
James Mock wrote: There is but one power which heals -- that is God. The state or condition through which the healing takes place is the confidence of the heart. By some this state is reached through pills, powders, and physicians. By others through hygiene, fasting, and prayer. By others

RE: Book of Daniel fulfilled

2004-12-09 Thread Ronald Stephens
First a quote: “”Papal infallibility and biblical inerrancy are the two ecclesiastical versions of this human idolatry. Both papal infallibility and biblical inerrancy require widespread and unchallenged ignorance to sustain their claims to power. Both are doomed as viable alternatives for

Re: Metaphorical Certitude

2004-10-12 Thread Ronald Stephens
Thanks for the suggestion, Mark, I looked up George Lakoff on the Wikipedia and a few other sites a found with Google, and he sounds really interesting. His ideas on embodied mind in particular strike a chord with me, since I do believe that human thought is based very much on emotions and

Re: Metaphorical Certitude

2004-10-12 Thread Ronald Stephens
OK, Mark, thanks for the recommendation, I will definitely try to find time to read Metaphors We Live By. By the way, from 1988 until 1994 I lived in Overland Park (Nottingham Forest) within walking distance of Johnson County CC. I wish I had been a Baha'i then, it would have been a pleasure

Re: My Mother

2004-10-12 Thread Ronald Stephens
I am sure that you and your mother have the prayers of everyone who reads this list. I am really sorry for your loss. Ron Stephens __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to