Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-22 Thread William Michael
Dear Don, Forgive me for intruding on this very learned conversation between you and Susan, but I was struck by your response and the distinction between interpretation and word play. You wrote, in order to reject one of Susan's arguments by finding a different status for the original words:

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/20/04 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Baha'is *would* capitalize Frequented Fane, for it is reference to the Manifestation as the Temple of God. I don't think so. These are the opening to a surah concerning the 'time of the end'. Muhammad begins by swearing a series of oaths

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/21/04 6:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forget that my original statement was that a *Baha'i* would capitalize it, not a Muslim, not even Muhammad. I'm not convinced. I don't think that swearing by the Returning Christ fits the context. If the 'frequented fane' line were right

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 3/21/2004 8:44:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to the Bab's use of the term - I understand this to be word play, not interpretation. Dear Don, And what do you do about Ali's use of the term? warmest, Susan

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/22/04 1:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/21/2004 8:44:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to the Bab's use of the term - I understand this to be word play, not interpretation. Dear Don, And what do you do about Ali's use of the

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-21 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/22/04 3:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/21/2004 10:26:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you insist that the Bab's use of the term was authoritative interpretation of the Qu'ran, then either Ali did not understand the Qu'ran or he was

Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-20 Thread Larry Marquardt
Holy Quran: 52:4 (Rodwell): By the Mountain And by the Book written On an outspread roll, And by the frequented fane, And by the lofty vault, And by the swollen sea, Verily, a chastisement from they Lord is imminent, And none shall put it back. Dear Friends, Why is Mountain and Book capitalized

Re: Holy Quran 52:4

2004-03-20 Thread Susan Maneck
Why is Mountain and Book capitalized? And what is the meaning of frequented fane in regards to this Quranic reference? I am wondering why frequented fane is not capitalized. Dear Larry, There are no caps in Arabic so the decision in this case was made by the translator. I think Baha'is *would*