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Another question. A non-Baha'i says to you Barrack Obama is a terrible
President. How should you respond? The problem is that it's difficult to
respond without taking sides, or appearing to take sides. You could try saying
uh huh in a tone of voice that sounds
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On 13 Apr 2010 at 23:50, David Regal wrote:
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Another question. A non-Baha'i says to you Barrack Obama is a
terrible President. How should you respond?
What's your standard of a 'good' president?
That is, avoid the personalities, go
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Dear Janine,
Are you saying (in your opinion) the Baha'i celebrity should decline to say
who they voted for, even if asked? Just trying to understand what you mean.
I could be wrong, but that's what I would think. If asked in an interview,
that is. If they said
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Dear David,
That would (in most cases) be my opinion, too.
Yours,
Jeanine
On 4/2/2010 10:30 PM, David Regal wrote:
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Dear Janine,
Are you saying (in your opinion) the Baha'i celebrity should decline
to say who they voted for, even if
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Yes, I was not talking of the legality of revealing your vote. I guess we all
agree that if not asked we shouldn't say who we voted for. I had thought that
Baha'is shouldn't say if asked but recently I've thought differently. Perhaps
a Baha'i celebrity might be a
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Sure, if we are teaching the Faith we should not bring it up, but as
you know I teach at a HBCU (historically black college) and when my
colleagues told me that when white people went into the poll booth
they would not vote for a black man, I couldn't resist coming back
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Dear David,
Are you saying (in your opinion) the Baha'i celebrity should decline to
say who they voted for, even if asked? Just trying to understand what
you mean.
Yours,
Jeanine
On 4/1/2010 2:29 AM, David Regal wrote:
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Yes, I was not
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Part of the problem is that 1) there are absolutely some white people
who won't, and 2) it never happened before, so people had to see it to
believe it (not just for black people). Skepticism in the black
community has seemed well-earned, in many people's view.
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Why the extreme skepticism? Didn't pre-election polling indicate the
opposite? There have been black governors in the US.
I live in Mississippi. Even though blacks make up 30% of the
population no black man has ever been elected to a state-wide office
here.
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I live in Mississippi. Even though blacks make up 30% of the
population no black man has ever been elected to a state-wide office here.
Has any black woman been elected to state office?
Tim
All good art is about something deeper than it admits.
--Roger Ebert
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Has any black woman been elected to state office?
LOL. Not to a state-wide office.
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Susan,
What about Hiram Revels and Blanche Bruce? Sure, that's going back to the
Reconstruction era, but you did say ever. Or do they not count since they
were elected by the legislature and not the popular vote (as all US Senators
were at that time)?
Peace,
Simeon
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What about Hiram Revels and Blanche Bruce? Sure, that's going back to the
Reconstruction era, but you did say ever.
Yeah, okay. No black person has been elected to a statewide office in
Mississippi since Reconstruction.
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Dear Simeon,
Isn't that a little bit like saying that, because the Azadi Tower that
Iranians are so proud of was built by a Baha'i, that Iran is a bastion
of freedom and liberty for Baha'is? I don't know the history of
Mississippi in terms of who has served--maybe
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Dear Jeanine,
I guess it would be like that if I were in fact suggesting that Mississippi
is a bastion of freedom and liberty for African-Americans, which I am
not. And it's not just Mississippi - there have only been six
African-American Senators in the entire
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Dear Simeon,
Fair enough. And, if I read more into your question than what was
straight and on the surface, then I apologize for thinking there might
be more to it. :-) Most people who have brought up that sort of thing in
my earshot within, oh, the last 30 years or
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Baha'is may find themselves in the situation where a non-Baha'i tries to find
out their political views. Let's say you are an American and the 2008
Presidential election has just taken place. How should you respond to a
non-Baha'i asking Who did you vote
:
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Baha'is may find themselves in the situation where a non-Baha'i tries to
find out their political views. Let's say you are an American and the 2008
Presidential election has just taken place. How should you respond to a
non-Baha'i asking Who did you vote for? If you do
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You might answer: I made the best choice I could, based on my beliefs
and priorities for the world and the country. They might then ask
what the top issues are, what you think about them ...
Sen
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Very good question. I think you should not get into an argument while having
the conversation. You can tell them that as Bahais we don't participate in
partisan politics. Also, that Bahais are all
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Your vote is secret. You do not have to divulge your vote to any person or
agency, etc.
I don't know that we are obliged to keep it a secret, however.
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Your vote is secret. You do not have to divulge your vote to any person or
agency, etc.
I don't
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Your vote is secret. You do not have to divulge your vote to any person or
agency, etc.
I don't know that we are obliged to keep it a secret, however
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I agree that we are probably not obliged to keep it a secret, because
I've not yet seen in the Writings that there is such a specified
obligation. Exercising
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I agree that we are probably not obliged to keep it a secret, because
I've not yet seen in the Writings that there is such a specified
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Thanks, Iskandar. Altho' I could be wrong about the original
questioner's intent, there is absolutely no question of the *legality*
of choosing to keep your vote a secret i(n the U.S.). Additionally, you
could
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I agree that we are probably not obliged to keep it a secret, because I've
not yet seen in the Writings that there is such a specified obligation.
Exercising wisdom by choosing not to reveal it is a different matter. I have
seen people typecast because they revealed
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Touche! ;-)
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I agree that we are probably not obliged to keep it a secret, because I've
not yet seen in the Writings that there is such a specified obligation.
Exercising wisdom by choosing
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