Religion must be the cause of unity

2007-04-20 Thread David Friedman
It says in the Writings that if religion should cause unity. If there is not unity that it is better to have no religion. This sounds good to say, but would we as Baha'is willing to back up this tenet by our actions? Certainly we can all agree that in Iran religion is not the cause of unity.

Re: Religion must be the cause of unity

2007-04-20 Thread Scott Saylors
David, you're trying to create absolute meaning in a faith which denies absolute truth. Any tenet, argument or debate can be carried to the point of absurdity. You have just done so with the words of Abdu'l Baha. Relax, forget absolutes, they have no place in the Baha`i Faith.

Re: Religion must be the cause of unity

2007-04-20 Thread Chase Foster
David, If you just think about the statement a little more carefully it is pretty clear that it is not referring to religion as a whole but individual religions. So that if the Baha'i Faith, for instance, began to have the same kind of effects that Islam is having it would be in line with the

Re: Religion must be the cause of unity

2007-04-20 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Might I suggest that, if a particular comment or question is not appropriate for this venue, we simply state that and redirect an individual toward a more appropriate place to get their question answered? Ben On 4/20/07, Chase Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, If you just think about

Re: Religion must be the cause of unity

2007-04-20 Thread Tim Nolan
Since Baha'is aren't allowed to renounce our religion how can we say that it is better to do away with religion if it is not the cause of unity? I don't see how this makes sense. The Baha'i teachings are not, and never will be the cause of disunity. In fact the true teachings of Judaism,

Religion must be the cause of unity

2006-05-30 Thread David Friedman
'Abdu'l-Baha says that if religion is not the cause of unity then it would be better that there were no religion. I was wondering how we can not be seen as hypocritical given that Baha'is are not allowed to renounce their religion regardless of circumstances. 'Abdu'l-Baha says that if

Re: Religion must be the cause of unity

2006-05-30 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
: Religion must be the cause of unity 'Abdu'l-Baha says that if religion is not the cause of unity then it would be better that there were no religion. I was wondering how we can not be seen as hypocritical given that Baha'is are not allowed to renounce their religion regardless of circumstances

RE: Religion must be the cause of unity

2006-05-30 Thread Khazeh
How is it then that an individual would like to renounce his belief in God; and yet, at the same time, be considered by all an sundry to be a believer in God? God, desiring to prevent dissension in His religion, has prevented it thus: The purpose of the Blessed Beauty in entering into this