Untrustworthy/Disobedient?

2010-06-19 Thread David Regal
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I have a question about the following:   Shaykh Abid, known by his pupils as Shaykhuna, was a man of piety and learning. He had been a disciple of both Shaykh Ahmad and Siyyid Kazim. One day, he related, I asked the Báb to recite the opening words of the Qur'án:

Re: Untrustworthy/Disobedient?

2010-06-19 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Okay, I don't get it.  The Bab was a sinless Manifestation and was always a Manifestation. That doesn't mean He wasn't also a child. The Manifestation has two natures, one divine and the other human. The Bab's human nature was clearly that of an impetuous child.

Untrustworthy/Disobedient?

2010-06-19 Thread Sen Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 19 Jun 2010 at 3:17, David Regal wrote: ... what about obedience to parents?  It may have been His uncle, but the uncle counts as a parent since he raised the Bab.  Does being a Manifestation waive certain aspects of accountability?   Regards, David     I

Re: Untrustworthy/Disobedient?

2010-06-19 Thread Matt Haase
The Baha'i Studies Listserv For one thing, the Dawnbreakers is sort of a hagiographical account of the mission of the Bab'. Not everything written in it is meant to be an exact, unbiased account of everything that went down in the Babi Movement. Secondly, even if that story was exactly true I