Year of patience - Exceptions

2010-01-17 Thread David Regal
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Baha'is are not to divorce without a year of patience.  This may not always be possible, however.  One may have a non-Baha'i spouse.  Baha'i law can't be imposed on them, so if they want an immediate divorce they can't be stopped.  Baha'i law is subordinate to civil

Re: Year of patience - Exceptions

2010-01-17 Thread David Regal
The Baha'i Studies Listserv It was brought to my attention that I missed the following letter:   1331.  ...There is no Baha'i law requiring the removal of voting rights for obtaining a civil divorce before the end of the year of waiting.  It is, of course preferred that civil divorce action be

Re: Year of patience - Exceptions

2010-01-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Would this also mean the following is not applicable: ''During this year of patience, the husband is obliged to provide for the financial support of his wife and children... (Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 211) Dear David, If she remarries during the year

Re: Year of patience - Exceptions

2010-01-17 Thread David Regal
The Baha'i Studies Listserv the partner who is the 'cause of divorce' will 'unquestionably' become the 'victim of formidable calamities'.  (Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 391)   This is an interesting prediction.  Has anyone observed this with numerous marriages?   Regards, David  

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
I always believe that the object of the law is more important than the law itself. What is the object of the Year of patience? To give a chance, to avoid the divorce, by thinking alone, discussing with others, speaking with the other, hearing the other, and maybe understanding that the couple

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Scott Saylors
There's another very important reason for the Year: To protect the dignity of both parties. Regards, Scott Loïc ROYER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always believe that the object of the law is more important than the law itself. What is the object of the Year of patience? To give

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear Scott, I didn't thought about this, but it looks very important indeed. but once the separation is effective, and one or the other is in love with someone else, the dignity of both is lost... So I believe this is one more reason to consider that regarding the year of patience, soonest

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Scott Saylors
to consider that regarding the year of patience, soonest is the best! Loïc By BOTH parties observing the year, regardless of the cause of the separation, dignity is preserved. I would note also that the only real reason for divorce is feeling 'repugnance' toward one's partner

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread smaneck
Personaly I have never felt this repugnance toward my ex-wife. I always respect and appreciate her. but when I realized I was in love with someone else (and not just for a temporary pleasure time) I have prefered to talk with her about this. Dear Loic, I do not think that falling in love

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Scott Saylors
english is too poor to understand what you mean by Other than that respondent remarketh not...? Regards, Loïc - Original Message - From: Scott Saylors To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Year of patience

Re: Year of patience

2006-11-11 Thread Don Calkins
of patience as well, though this is strongly discouraged as being contrary to the spirit of the Year of Patience. What they can't do according to Baha'i law is remarry until the year is up. Peculiarities state law sometimes make an early divorce advisable. I know of one case and have heard of another

Year of patience

2006-11-10 Thread David Friedman
If a Baha'i is married to a non-Baha'i the non-Baha'i can get a divorce prior to the conclusion ofa year of patience. They can do this because Baha'i law is subordinate to civil law. My question is, if this happens must the Baha'i observe the rest of the year of patience even though divorced

Re: Year of patience

2006-11-10 Thread Scott Saylors
In a word, "YES". It is possible under certain conditions for a Baha`i to seek a civil divorce before the year is up. In those cases the Year of Patience is still binding.Regards, ScottDavid Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a Baha'i is married to a non-Baha'i the non-

Re: Year of patience

2006-11-10 Thread smaneck
of patience as well, though this is strongly discouraged as being contrary to the spirit of the Year of Patience. What they can't do according to Baha'i law is remarry until the year is up. My question is, if this happens must the Baha'i observe the rest of the year of patience even though