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dear Susan,
but altogether it should be based on truth.and lead to truth,and not
allusions n fictions.Do not u think so?
the best/Rohani
Sure, I just think that the heart has reasons which reason knows not of.
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Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 12:17 AM
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It seems to me that the major function of 'proofs'
regarding the
existence of God is to establish that belief is not absurd
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Don Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
I would agree in the sense that the classic philosophical proofs for
the existence of God are insufficient
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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Don Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The members of a set (Creation) can not prove the existence of something
(God) outside the set.
I would agree in the sense that the classic philosophical proofs for
the existence of God
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Please study William Hatcher's proof.
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On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
I would agree in the sense that the classic philosophical proofs for
the existence of God are insufficient. But I don't believe that what
you wrote above is a genderally valid principle. (e.g. It is possible
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Sent: November 17, 2008 2:03 AM
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Subject: Baha'i proofs of the existence of God
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Some years ago I sent 'Abdu'l-Baha's proof of God's existence from SAQ to a
few atheists to see what they thought. It was not well received and they
found
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the Master's proof is a paraphrease of stuff from avicenna.
in the usa, hatcher did a revise of the same proof.
it should gooogle.
all such proofs fail by the logical fallacy of assuming the thing to be
proven, positive causation.
on the other hand, hatcher's
then describe the pleasure as
atheism.
I strongly agree.
The members of a set (Creation) can not prove the existence of
something (God) outside the set.
The so-called proofs are actually rationalizations for believing.
Don C
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Understood properly, all man's problems
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The members of a set (Creation) can not prove the existence of
something (God) outside the set.
An excellent point. I think there will never be a convincing, logical
proof of God's existence, because humans have been attempting
this for centuries, and still
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Please study William Hatcher's proof.
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The members of a set (Creation) can not prove
the existence of
something (God) outside the set.
An excellent point. I think there will never be a convincing, logical
proof
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On Nov 18, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Dean Betts wrote:
Please study William Hatcher's proof.
I did. As I remember, he either makes an unwarranted assumption or
changes a definition in mid-argument.
Don C
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Understood properly, all man's problems are
in other places would be more likely to convince.
I know there are public debates on the existence of God in America. Does
'Abdu'l-Baha offer any new arguments?
Regards,David
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Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your
all its work when we are living.
I also believe that the dreams evocated as proofs of existence of God
are a
very particular type of visions, coming also during the sleep but
something
totaly different than the natural dreams we don't even remember.
Loïc
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LOL. I have dogs and cats too. It seems they dream. But the Master
says something like without seeing you see, but the dogs and
cats with eyes closed also see in dreams no?
Probably. At least my dog seems to be chasing a rabbit. It would seem
that even with animals the imagination is more
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