Religion must be the cause of unity

2006-05-30 Thread David Friedman
'Abdu'l-Baha says that if religion is not the cause of unity then it would be better that there were no religion. I was wondering how we can not be seen as hypocritical given that Baha'is are not allowed to renounce their religion regardless of circumstances. 'Abdu'l-Baha says that if

RE: inspiration or revelation?

2006-05-30 Thread Sandra
Hasan wrote: Does 'Abdu'l-Bah reveal or He is inspired? Instead of say "a Tablet, prayerrevealed by 'Abdu'l-Bah", we should say "a Tablet inspired by 'Abdu'l-Bah" Dear Hasan, As an English only speaking person, I'm quite comfortable with the phrase "revealed by" in reference

Re: inspiration or revelation?

2006-05-30 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
How about inspired by God and revealed by Abdu'l-Baha? and with certain prayers revealed by 'Abdu'l-Bahá -- such communications constitute in themselves a notable and illuminating chapter in the history of the unfoldment of the Bahá'í Administrative Order. (Shoghi Effendi, God Passes By,

Re: Religion must be the cause of unity

2006-05-30 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
How is it then that an individual would like to renounce his belief in God; and yet, at the same time, be considered by all an sundry to be a believer in God? God, desiring to prevent dissension in His religion, has prevented it thus: The purpose of the Blessed Beauty in entering into this

Re: inspiration or revelation?

2006-05-30 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
But in your thread, revealed/inspired seems to be a question of status for the human participant. What is relavant, dear Gilberto, is that the Baha'i Revelation as with the Qur'an is the Revelation of God and confirms what went before. 3 He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with

RE: Religion must be the cause of unity

2006-05-30 Thread Khazeh
How is it then that an individual would like to renounce his belief in God; and yet, at the same time, be considered by all an sundry to be a believer in God? God, desiring to prevent dissension in His religion, has prevented it thus: The purpose of the Blessed Beauty in entering into this

cancerous materialism

2006-05-30 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
I found it rather instructive to read the article at the posted URL below in light of the rather terrifying quotation from Shoghi Effendi. "It is this same cancerous materialism, born originally in Europe, carried to excess in the North American continent, contaminating the Asiatic

Re: inspiration or revelation?

2006-05-30 Thread Don Calkins
At 9:32 AM -0500 5/29/06, Hasan Elias wrote: Does 'Abdu'l-Bahá reveal or He is inspired? Instead of say a Tablet, prayer revealed by 'Abdu'l-Bahá, we should say a Tablet inspired by 'Abdu'l-Bahá In English, a Tablet inspired by 'Abdu'l-Baha would not be written by Abdu'l-Baha, rather He