Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Gerald Coley
Same comment applies to the BBBW production. The IMU can be troublesome as well. Distributors take these issues VERY seriously. The repercussions could be catastrophic for them if they don't. So, look at it from their perspective. They have a lot more to be concerned about and they need to play

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Gerald Coley wrote: > Not user how the parts got to China. Most likely nobody knew. Sort of risky > from my experience. But as long as nobody finds out, should not be an issue. They had the Octavo's from the BBBW production.. i would have

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Gerald Coley
Not user how the parts got to China. Most likely nobody knew. Sort of risky from my experience. But as long as nobody finds out, should not be an issue. Gerald On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Robert Nelson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:04 PM, evilwulfie

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:04 PM, evilwulfie wrote: > So i would assume that Element14 makes these in china ? Correct embest-tech in china built the first round of blue's.. Regards, -- Robert Nelson https://rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Gerald Coley
Some of them. Not sure where the Blue is hatched. Gerald On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:04 PM, evilwulfie wrote: > So i would assume that Element14 makes these in china ? > > > On 3/24/2017 11:26 AM, Jason Kridner wrote: > > > > On Mar 24, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Eric Keller

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread evilwulfie
So i would assume that Element14 makes these in china ? On 3/24/2017 11:26 AM, Jason Kridner wrote: > > > On Mar 24, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Eric Keller > wrote: > >> Robert knows better, I guess. Dell asks me these questions every >> time I buy a computer.

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Gerald Coley
ITAR is military. The issue here is the encryption capability of the processor which results in export restrictions. This has been the case for every single Beagle Board. I suspect the wrinkle here may be the fact that this board has a SIP on it with the processor inside meaning the board is a

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread David Witten
So the answer is No. Just timing and ITAR paperwork. Old saw, I should know better - Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". But there is so much of both going around these days. Dave -- For more options, visit

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Jason Kridner
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Eric Keller wrote: > > Robert knows better, I guess. Dell asks me these questions every time I buy > a computer. They are just fulfilling a requirement that has been in place > for a very long time by now. Indeed. We've had to get

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread David Witten
Robert, Perhaps I can place my pre-order with RS - anyone outside the US (like I did with the X-15). Dave On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:51 PM, David Witten wrote: > Eric, > > It doesn't say ITAR, and I'm not shipping it anywhere. I'm located in the > middle of Missouri,

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Eric Keller
Robert knows better, I guess. Dell asks me these questions every time I buy a computer. They are just fulfilling a requirement that has been in place for a very long time by now. On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM, David Witten wrote: > Eric, > > It doesn't say ITAR, and I'm

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread David Witten
Eric, It doesn't say ITAR, and I'm not shipping it anywhere. I'm located in the middle of Missouri, USA. I do not resell anything... Who knows in this world. Dave On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Eric Keller wrote: > I think it's ITAR because it's a computer that can

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Robert Nelson
This happens at every launch. The export paper work isn't ready.  On Mar 24, 2017 12:47 PM, "Eric Keller" wrote: > I think it's ITAR because it's a computer that can control a flying > vehicle. > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:31 PM, wrote: > >> I just went

Re: [beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread Eric Keller
I think it's ITAR because it's a computer that can control a flying vehicle. On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:31 PM, wrote: > I just went to pre-order two BB Blue boards from Mouser. They emailed me > back a ' Customer End User Certificate' and asking questions like: > > My

[beagleboard] Are all Beagle* Products now subject to ITAR or 'Extreme Vetting'?

2017-03-24 Thread wittend
I just went to pre-order two BB Blue boards from Mouser. They emailed me back a ' Customer End User Certificate' and asking questions like: My Federal ID, Have you or has your company ever been convicted of violating U.S. Export Laws and Regulation? Are you or is your company currently