Re: [BRLTTY] TSI braille display protocol

2021-10-04 Thread Songpakorn Punongong
Hi Deniz, You are not alone here. I am also developing my own braille display on Arduino learning from c++ code in BRLTTY. Since it is still in the prototyping stage, I still need to learn a bit before asking Dave to deploy the new patch across the BRLTTY platform. We can contact each other

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 4 Oct 2021, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2021/10/04 at 19:29 +0300] > > >Seems to work, thanks. (In fact I see more problems in some applications, > > There might be another place (I foget off the top of my head) that also needs > to be changed which has to

Re: [BRLTTY] TSI braille display protocol

2021-10-04 Thread deniz sincar
Hello again. No, I don’t want to make a braille emulator for now. Just it was an idea before. I want to show some data from sensors on the braille display: connecting Arduino board straight to braille display. However, the function to send serial in Arduino is: serial.print or Serial.println.

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello, On 2021-10-04 at 13:03 -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2021/10/04 at 19:29 +0300] > >Seems to work, thanks. (In fact I see more problems in some applications, > There might be another place (I foget off the top of my head) that also > needs to be

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2021/10/04 at 19:29 +0300] >Seems to work, thanks. (In fact I see more problems in some applications, There might be another place (I foget off the top of my head) that also needs to be changed which has to do with cursor placement. I'll look for it. Now,

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
On 2021-10-04 at 10:51 -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2021/10/04 at 15:50 +0300] > >I would also like to get rid of this space removal right away, because I'm > >debugging alignment issues, and I might provide misinformation to developers > >because of this.

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 4 Oct 2021, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2021/10/04 at 15:50 +0300] > > >I would also like to get rid of this space removal right away, because I'm > >debugging alignment issues, and I might provide misinformation to developers > >because of this. Could you

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2021/10/04 at 15:50 +0300] >I would also like to get rid of this space removal right away, because I'm >debugging alignment issues, and I might provide misinformation to developers >because of this. Could you please tell me the location of the code

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hi, On 2021-10-04 at 15:50 +0300, Aura Kelloniemi wrote: > On 2021-10-01 at 17:03 -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > > On the screen, Linux pads a wide character with a space to the right. > This maintains vertical alignment, which is what they care about. > I reasearched this, and Linux does

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hi, On 2021-10-01 at 17:03 -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > On the screen, Linux pads a wide character with a space to the right. This > maintains vertical alignment, which is what they care about. I reasearched this, and Linux does not do anything special with two-column characters, not even

Re: [BRLTTY] TSI braille display protocol

2021-10-04 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2021/10/04 at 11:53 +0200] Hi: >If the iOS model-detection works the way we assume, yes. >The problem here is that how Apple detects models is pretty opaque to us. It may be different for each type of device since they have to live with whatever any given

Re: [BRLTTY] TSI braille display protocol

2021-10-04 Thread Mario Lang
Dave Mielke writes: > Does iOS no longer support the Baum protocol? > I'd think that some new Baum model, e.g. the VarioUltra, would be a > better fit. Then all you'd need is strict pass through. If the iOS model-detection works the way we assume, yes. The problem here is that how Apple detects

Re: [BRLTTY] TSI braille display protocol

2021-10-04 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2021/10/04 at 11:15 +0200] >I guess the best option I have here is to enable a Brailliant BI 40? Does iOS no longer support the Baum protocol? I'd think that some new Baum model, e.g. the VarioUltra, would be a better fit. Then all you'd need is strict pass

Re: [BRLTTY] TSI braille display protocol

2021-10-04 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2021/10/04 at 08:36 +0200] >Maybe BRLTTY should have such a tool by default? If I'm understanding you correctly, brltty probably has all the pieces. What, excactly, would you like such a tool to do? -- I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God:

Re: [BRLTTY] TSI braille display protocol

2021-10-04 Thread Felix G.
Hello Mario, if your goal is to emulate a Bluetooth Braille display for communication with iOS, I suggest you go with the HID Braille usage page. We've had good results with it, and it can at the same time become a reference implementation for testing against other HID Braillers. Best, Felix Am

Re: [BRLTTY] TSI braille display protocol

2021-10-04 Thread Mario Lang
deniz sincar writes: > Hello. as i don't understand brltty driver code, i want to learn the > tsi braille display driver serial communication protocol in a human > understandable language. I am afraid we dont have exhaustive protocol description in human readable form. Use the source is pretty