Thanks, Mario. I fully get your point. And it's not necessarily
ghettoish if it is mainstream appps that can be made speech and braille
aware, after all.
Sébastien.
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Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> Are you in a way saying that it would be helpful also for text
> application to be able to export their structure somehow, as graphical
> ones do?
No, actually not. The idea of speech-enabled applications goes a little
further. There is the counterargument of
Thanks for your feedback, Mario.
Are you in a way saying that it would be helpful also for text
application to be able to export their structure somehow, as graphical
ones do? I guess the so-called widgets would be a bit different, may
there may be something to think about there...
But this
Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> Samuel Thibault (2021/08/30 18:56 +0200):
>> Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 30 août 2021 17:54:29 +0200, a ecrit:
>> > Regarding the counting feature, I find it very clever! But then I'm
>> > wondering, why not ocunting tabs directly?
>>
>> The screen reader cannot
Samuel Thibault (2021/08/30 18:56 +0200):
> Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 30 août 2021 17:54:29 +0200, a ecrit:
> > Regarding the counting feature, I find it very clever! But then I'm
> > wondering, why not ocunting tabs directly?
>
> The screen reader cannot actually "see" the tab characters, it
Thanks a lot for your response, Brian! I find it nice that you are on
this list although you are seemingly not a brltty user. And I really
appreciate to know that another screen reader exists for text-mode
applications.
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Hi Devin,
Woudln't it be okay to start by enabling braille in NVDA and coding with
both speech and braille together, and in an environment you are
otherwise familiar with? Ti would seem to me this would be a smoother
transition than the one you seem to have inmind.
Shérab.
PS: Many thanks, Devin, for having explained how speech and sound can be
used to render indentation, I found that quite interesting!
Sébastien.
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Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 30 août 2021 17:54:29 +0200, a ecrit:
> Regarding the counting feature, I find it very clever! But then I'm
> wondering, why not ocunting tabs directly?
The screen reader cannot actually "see" the tab characters, it only sees
spaces.
Samuel
hello Sebastien. I've been programming in the Unix world for just over
30 years, many
years in C, some pascal, and, lately, more in perl. My primary screen reader
is Yasr, working
in text windows. I use the Flite synthesizer from CMU in conjunction with
Eflite, the
companion program
I use mostly speech, for the (learning) code that I do (in Python). NVDA
has an ability to beep at a certain tone to show indentation. The higher
the tone, the more indented a line is. Emacspeak says something like
"indent 2" or "indent 4" in a slightly softer voice than normal, to show
So, is yasr still under active development?
Regarding the counting feature, I find it very clever! But then I'm
wondering, why not ocunting tabs directly? Replacing them with dots,
which can appear in a code, might be misleading actually.
Sébastien.
Hello. that could possibly work, but it gets hard to count iterations
of " point, point,
point". However, another feature of the screen reader I use, Yasr, which is a
feature I added,
counts instances of a repeated character on a line when the repeat count is
greater than 3.
So, with
Many thanks, Brain, for your testimonial!
To be honest, when you describe how you work it gives me the feeling
that it would take me ages to do the same with speech that what I can do
with braille, but I guess all this is a matter of habbits and most
likely I am biased by mine.
Since you are
Hello,
Brian Buhrow, le lun. 30 août 2021 00:38:02 -0700, a ecrit:
> The way I do it is to use a terminal that can give me cursor row and
> column information. Then, using vi, I can travel up and down the
> page, pressing the carat and checking my cursor position to make sure
> my indentation
hello. I am a braille reader, a programmer and one who mostly programs
using speech
synthesis. And, yes, I feel code indentation is vitally important and use
indentation to
format my code or to augment others' code regularly. The way I do it is to
use a terminal
that can give me
Dear Adrian,
My assumption is that, for you as well as for me, the keyword is
habbits. I guess that we both have the bias of our own habbits, which
makes us believe that the solution the know is the most appropriate one,
but perhaps it's just because we know it and then it talks only to us.
Hi Sebastien,
Before I retired I worked in the computer business myslef for almost 40
years.
I was a Linux/Unix system engeneer and system manager.
As far as your second point, I always used 80 cell displays, except for
the first two years when I had a teltype producing 40 chars wide paper
Dear all,
Recently I discovered the braillists forum. For those who don't already
know, it's a google group to which you can subscribe by sending an
e-mail to
braillists+subscr...@googlegroups.com
On this forum, somebody posted this link:
https://www.afb.org/aw/22/7/17623
I found it quite
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