Double sync, one more time

2002-04-04 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello! I understand that GRUB 0.92 will be released soon. I sent this patch already and it was rejected because some better solution is planned. The problem is very serious under Linux 2.4.x on ext3 and reiferfs - it's very easy to make the system unbootable if my patch is not applied.

Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread RD Lawrence
I apologize in advance if this topic has been beaten to death. I've reviewed at least 100+ articles on usenet and haven't found a satisfactory answer for a recurring problem. Under the heading How to Uninstall GRUB from my hard disk drive?, the FAQ states that there is no concept uninstall in

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
Boot from a dos floppy and: fdisk /mbr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RD Lawrence) writes: I apologize in advance if this topic has been beaten to death. I've reviewed at least 100+ articles on usenet and haven't found a satisfactory answer for a recurring problem. Under the heading How to Uninstall

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread RD Lawrence
Thanks for the suggestion, but we don't have any DOS floppies. Is there a way that this problem can be fixed *WITHOUT* purchasing an MSDOS 6.x license from microsoft? Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer wrote: Boot from a dos floppy and: fdisk /mbr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RD Lawrence) writes: In

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Iain Rae
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 RD Lawrence wrote: |Thanks for the suggestion, but we don't have any DOS floppies. Is there a |way that this problem can be fixed *WITHOUT* purchasing an MSDOS 6.x license |from microsoft? | freedos? http://www.freedos.org/ - -- Iain Rae

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread RD Lawrence
Even if we had DOS floppies, I'm not sure this solution would work without juggling the cable connections. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I've heard that Microsoft's fdisk program makes the ASSUMPTION that the boot disk is hda0,0. In the situations that I keep coming across, this isn't the case.

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Kingsly John
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, RD Lawrence wrote: |Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer wrote: | | Boot from a dos floppy and: | fdisk /mbr | |Thanks for the suggestion, but we don't have any DOS floppies. Is there a |way that this problem can be fixed *WITHOUT* purchasing an MSDOS 6.x license |from

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hi! Thanks for the suggestion, but we don't have any DOS floppies. Is there a way that this problem can be fixed *WITHOUT* purchasing an MSDOS 6.x license from microsoft? Get OpenDOS: ftp://ftp.lineo.com/pub/drdos/OpenDOS.701/ -- Regards, Pavel Roskin

Removing grub *WITHOUT* using other OS'es. Was: ...Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread RD Lawrence
Thanks for the heads up regarding a free version of DOS. We stupidly threw away our DOS diskettes years ago, iin 1984 if memory serves, after convincing ourselves that DOS was totally unnecessary in a good unix working environment. :-)We never realized that we would eventually find

Re: Removing grub *WITHOUT* using other OS'es. Was: ...RemovingGrub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Kingsly John
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, RD Lawrence wrote: |Does anyone know how to safely rewrite MBRs *and* PBRs on linux drives |and partitions using *LINUX* tools? Apart from confusing and |ambiguous documentation, the problem of removing grub seems to be the |number #1 complaint from grub users. The MBR

Re: Removing grub *WITHOUT* using other OS'es. Was: ...RemovingGrub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Iain Rae
RD Lawrence wrote: Thanks for the heads up regarding a free version of DOS. We stupidly threw away our DOS diskettes years ago, iin 1984 if memory serves, after convincing ourselves that DOS was totally unnecessary in a good unix working environment. :-)We never realized that we would

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RD Lawrence) writes: Even if we had DOS floppies, I'm not sure this solution would work without juggling the cable connections. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I've heard that Microsoft's fdisk program makes the ASSUMPTION that the boot disk is hda0,0. In the situations that I

Re: Removing grub *WITHOUT* using other OS'es. Was: ...RemovingGrub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Ilguiz Latypov
Kingsly, Is c specifier required in the block size parameter (bs=446c)? I think the default unit size is a block of 512 bytes. Ilguiz On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Kingsly John wrote: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdX bs=446 count=1 ___ Bug-grub mailing

Re: Removing grub *WITHOUT* using other OS'es. Was: ...RemovingGrub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Kingsly John
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Iain Rae wrote: |well, why not install lilo then remove it again (or does it put back |what was there before?) Lilo makes a backup of the mbr or whereever you are installing lilo *if* a backup doesn't already exist. And the -u option in lilo simply re-writes this backup

Re: Removing grub *WITHOUT* using other OS'es. Was: ...RemovingGrub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Kingsly John
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Ilguiz Latypov wrote: |On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Kingsly John wrote: | | # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdX bs=446 count=1 | |Is c specifier required in the block size parameter (bs=446c)? I think |the default unit size is a block of 512 bytes. c is a multiplier with value 1 so

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Yoshinori K. Okuji
At 04 Apr 2002 15:22:30 -0500, Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer wrote: Correct. So I really don't get why you want to remove grub from hd1 if you plan to boot from hd3... Boot from hd3 and don't give a damn about hd1! You are right. Russell just said nonsense. Okuji

Re: Will upgrade to XP kill lilo and mandrake??

2002-04-04 Thread Andrew Clausen
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:49:51PM -0800, John Coffman wrote: I think someone who is running two or more operating systems is more sophistocated than the casual user. Why can't my grandma try out GNU/Linux without needing to know what boot or partition means? Why do I have to tell her but be

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread RD Lawrence
Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: At 04 Apr 2002 15:22:30 -0500, Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer wrote: Correct. So I really don't get why you want to remove grub from hd1 if you plan to boot from hd3... Boot from hd3 and don't give a damn about hd1! You are right. Russell just said nonsense.

Re: Removing grub *WITHOUT* using other OS'es. Was: ...Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:26:53AM +0530, Kingsly John wrote: But I think the method I suggested of zeroing out the first 446 bytes should work because I think that must be what fdisk /mbr must be doing too. fdisk /mgr is installing a different bootloader. It doesn't just zero out the

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread Yoshinori K. Okuji
Ok, now what you mean is worth considering. I couldn't figure out why you wanted to remove GRUB. Sorry, if my reply sounded offensive. I understand GRUB should make a backup before installing itself, and if a backup is made, writing grub-uninstall would be very easy. I'll investigate how

Re: Need Help on Removing Grub (Again)

2002-04-04 Thread RD Lawrence
Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: I understand GRUB should make a backup before installing itself, and if a backup is made, writing grub-uninstall would be very easy. I'll investigate how backup/uninstall should work, since there are some situations where it is not very clear what that looks like

stage2Geom error

2002-04-04 Thread Gerd Schering
Hi, I apologize in advance, because I am shure that my problem isn't a grub-bug, so this posting is somewhat out of topic for this list - but I dont now where else to answer. I'm using grub-0.90. I wanted to create a GRUB boot floppy, so I did: # dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512

Help needed!!!!

2002-04-04 Thread Vineeth Varghese
Hi, I have a RH7.2 Linux desktop but my system administrator has the root password to my machine. A couple of days back this admin left our company and forgot to give anyone the root password of my machine. The new admin doesn't really know what to do in this situation. My bootloader is GRUB.