Hi,
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:40:32AM +0200, Jan Wielkiewicz wrote:
> Dnia 2020-08-19, o godz. 10:41:42 Samuel Thibault
> napisa??(a):
> > There seems to be some move in there, see
> > https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/08/18/laying-the-foundation-for-rusts-future.html
> Yes, I saw this, but
Richard Braun, le mar. 22 sept. 2020 13:28:42 +0200, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 06:39:29PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > One way to avoid the bug is to use the e1000 hardware network type. I
> > guess the rtl8139 driver that we ship in netdde has a bug in its irq
> > handling (we had
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 06:39:29PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> One way to avoid the bug is to use the e1000 hardware network type. I
> guess the rtl8139 driver that we ship in netdde has a bug in its irq
> handling (we had already seen that kind of bug a long time ago in the
> IDE driver).
Hello again:
I've just found this page, of Redox OS project, which can be a good
reference about how to structure the webpage in a useful way.
https://www.redox-os.org/
It's a pretty simple webpage, mostly written in HTML, and maybe PHP. It
includes a bit of javascript, but I think that It's
hi,
9 septembre 2020 20:04 "Nala Ginrut" a écrit:
> Hi there!
>
> Jan Wielkiewicz writes:
>
>> Third question:
>> Do you have anything against Rust contributions into the project? My
>> friend is interested in contributing, but unfortunately in Rust, not C.
>> I wonder if rump drivers could
Hi there!
Jan Wielkiewicz writes:
> Third question:
> Do you have anything against Rust contributions into the project? My
> friend is interested in contributing, but unfortunately in Rust, not C.
> I wonder if rump drivers could be written in Rust, thanks
> to the Hurd's modular architecture.
Thanks!
I suppose that pricing refers to how much it would cost to host your
website on my GNU/Hurd servers. (Please bear in mind that I currently
have 0 GNU/Hurd servers). :(
Joshua
--
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> Also, you might take some inspiration from my gnu-hurd.com website.
It's beautiful!! :-)
What do you refer to as "Pricing"? From where do you get this price?
It's a curiosity
El sáb., 5 sept. 2020 a las 15:27, Joshua Branson ()
escribió:
>
> Also, you might take some inspiration from my
Also, you might take some inspiration from my gnu-hurd.com website.
https://notabug.org/jbranso/gnu-hurd.com
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I've just remembered that, in my document, I forgot to add information
about how to compile GNU Mach and Hurd in the "How to contribute" section.
For GNU Mach, you can get information here:
https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach/gnumach/building.html
This document is incomplete, and
Richard Braun, le ven. 28 août 2020 18:33:03 +0200, a ecrit:
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 06:51:27PM +0200, Jan Wielkiewicz wrote:
> > Also navigation is too complicated and messy, searching doesn't work at
> > all, because https://darnassus.sceen.net/cgi-bin/hurd-web is dead half
> > of the time.
>
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 06:51:27PM +0200, Jan Wielkiewicz wrote:
> Also navigation is too complicated and messy, searching doesn't work at
> all, because https://darnassus.sceen.net/cgi-bin/hurd-web is dead half
> of the time.
> Any special wishes?
By the way, the main reason why that website is
Dnia 2020-08-25, o godz. 00:04:58
Almudena Garcia napisał(a):
> Jan. I've just written a little draft to help you with the website.
>
> The draft includes some suggestions about index, and some sections
> like "getting started" (how to download, test, and install Hurd,
> putting Debian GNU/Hurd
Jan. I've just written a little draft to help you with the website.
The draft includes some suggestions about index, and some sections like
"getting started" (how to download, test, and install Hurd, putting Debian
GNU/Hurd as example), and "how to contribute", with some tips about how to
write
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 01:28:42AM +0200, Richard Braun wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:10:53PM +0200, Almudena Garcia wrote:
> > We have to leave the 90s ideas, and think as younger people thinks nowadays
I mean, really, you have to keep in mind that the Hurd originated in the
80s/90s, and
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:24:50PM +0200, Jan Wielkiewicz wrote:
> Please stop arguing, everyone.
> I already made some notes about how to make the web page more readable,
> we'll be judging the effects when its done.
> Don't waste more time on arguing than it's worth.
This discussion relates to
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:10:53PM +0200, Almudena Garcia wrote:
> > I don't want to work with people who give up because it takes them
> > more than a few seconds to find information, or who evaluate a project
> > based on the look of its web site.
> This is a prejudice, in fact.
The definition
Dnia 2020-08-19, o godz. 23:48:26
Samuel Thibault napisał(a):
> Jan Wielkiewicz, le lun. 17 août 2020 01:33:41 +0200, a ecrit:
> > > I know. That still does not mean I understand the *reasoning*.
> > >
> > Life is often about accidents, not about reasoning.
>
> Discovering something by
Dnia 2020-08-20, o godz. 18:06:02
Richard Braun napisał(a):
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 03:19:56PM +0200, Almudena Garcia wrote:
> > But, about the website, if I remember well, this thread started
> > because of an offer to update the website.
> > Why don't we accept the offer?
> >
> > It's a bad
Almudena Garcia, le jeu. 20 août 2020 23:10:53 +0200, a ecrit:
> We have to leave the 90s ideas, and think as younger people thinks nowadays
> (It
> don't refers to think as a teenager, simply remove elitists ideas and
> prejudices about "who merit work in this project")
It's not a question of
> I don't want to work with people who give up because it takes them
> more than a few seconds to find information, or who evaluate a project
> based on the look of its web site.
This is a prejudice, in fact.
If we want to attract new users who can become contributors, we have to
make the
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 03:19:56PM +0200, Almudena Garcia wrote:
> But, about the website, if I remember well, this thread started because of
> an offer to update the website.
> Why don't we accept the offer?
>
> It's a bad idea to reject this type of offer only for prejudices about the
>
> The reason the Hurd doesn't have a good web site, or good documentation,
or good performance, or
> good device support, etc..., is the same as always : too few people.
But, about the website, if I remember well, this thread started because of
an offer to update the website.
Why don't we accept
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 02:32:03AM +0200, Almudena Garcia wrote:
> > Every year or couple of year has its own marketting trend, and if you
> > don't follow it each time (thus consuming your time just for that),
> In fact, It's not necessary to follow the hype about a technology or a
> trend.
> But
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Almudena Garcia, le jeu. 20 août 2020 00:03:08 +0200, a ecrit:
>> > But deciding to have a look at some project only because the website is all
>> > shiny, no.
>> It is more important than you're thinking now.
>
> AGAIN I'm saying it's not "important". What I'm saying
> Every year or couple of year has its own marketting trend, and if you
> don't follow it each time (thus consuming your time just for that),
In fact, It's not necessary to follow the hype about a technology or a
trend.
But It's not necessary to follow the hype to create a beautiful webpage.
The
Almudena Garcia, le jeu. 20 août 2020 00:03:08 +0200, a ecrit:
> > But deciding to have a look at some project only because the website is all
> > shiny, no.
> It is more important than you're thinking now.
AGAIN I'm saying it's not "important". What I'm saying is that I don't
understand the
> But deciding to have a look at some project only because the website is
all shiny, no.
It is more important than you're thinking now. So many times, when I talk
about Hurd with friends, my friends are afraid because the website is old,
ugly, out-of-date, and very confusing.
All the time I have
Joshua Branson, le mar. 18 août 2020 10:25:17 -0400, a ecrit:
> Samuel Thibault writes:
> > Jan Wielkiewicz, le dim. 16 août 2020 21:00:26 +0200, a ecrit:
> >> > More than a grant, it's people that we would need (yes, a grant could
> >> > help here but in the end it's people that matter).
> >> I
Jan Wielkiewicz, le lun. 17 août 2020 01:33:41 +0200, a ecrit:
> > I know. That still does not mean I understand the *reasoning*.
> >
> Life is often about accidents, not about reasoning.
Discovering something by accident, yes. But deciding to have a look at
some project only because the website
Dnia 2020-08-19, o godz. 10:41:42
Samuel Thibault napisał(a):
> There seems to be some move in there, see
>
> https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/08/18/laying-the-foundation-for-rusts-future.html
Yes, I saw this, but nothing especially indicates they will make the
trademarks more user-friendly.
Jan Wielkiewicz, le dim. 16 août 2020 21:00:26 +0200, a ecrit:
> Dnia 2020-08-16, o godz. 16:39:12
> Samuel Thibault napisał(a):
> > That being said, see fsf's concern about the "rust" trademark:
> > https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Rust
> If this is the case, this needs to be also solved in Guix.
Jan Wielkiewicz writes:
> Dnia 2020-08-16, o godz. 09:44:38
> Joshua Branson napisał(a):
>> I'll email the leader the libre-risc-v and let him know about the
>> libre-soc.org website. Those guys should work together!
> They're the same actually :)
> They changed the name, because they
Jan Wielkiewicz writes:
> Dnia 2020-08-17, o godz. 00:07:25
> Samuel Thibault napisał(a):
>
>> I know. That still does not mean I understand the *reasoning*.
>>
> Life is often about accidents, not about reasoning. I discovered GNU by
> an accident, because of a proprietary game. Sounds stupid,
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Jan Wielkiewicz, le dim. 16 août 2020 21:00:26 +0200, a ecrit:
>> > More than a grant, it's people that we would need (yes, a grant could
>> > help here but in the end it's people that matter).
>> I believe the website could help here, explanation below.
May I suggest
Jan Wielkiewicz writes:
> Dnia 2020-08-16, o godz. 16:39:12
> Samuel Thibault napisał(a):
>
>> Hello,
> Currently the latest news on the website are "2016-12-18-releases".
> I'm not talking about news from https://darnassus.sceen.net/ , because
> it is not accessible from the official website
You may also be interested in looking at this:
https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/community/weblogs/ArneBab/how-i-write-a-qoth.html
It gives you a roadmap about how to regularly write about GNU/Hurd
updates!
It's awesome to have you aboard the team!
--
Joshua Branson
Sent from Emacs and Gnus
You could also check out my GNU/Hurd cheatsheet. It's got lots of ideas
on the wiki that could use some updating:
https://notabug.org/jbranso/cheatsheets/src/master/hurd.org#wiki
--
Joshua Branson
Sent from Emacs and Gnus
>
> > That'd be great! See the previous editions for the topics, but basically
> > anything about what is happening would be useful to talk about.
>
> Are there any features present in the latest images that weren’t in the
2019
> release that could be the basis of a post?
> I have to admit I
Dnia 2020-08-17, o godz. 00:07:25
Samuel Thibault napisał(a):
> Whatever the "ideal" target would be (we have previously seen people
> saying arm would be), not targetting x86 as well looks like suicide to
> me.
I see.
> Why would they need to be? A firmware is not supposed to be
> OS-specific.
Andrew Eggenberger, le dim. 16 août 2020 17:49:37 -0500, a ecrit:
> > That'd be great! See the previous editions for the topics, but basically
> > anything about what is happening would be useful to talk about.
>
> Are there any features present in the latest images that weren’t in the 2019
>
Hi Samuel
That'd be great! See the previous editions for the topics, but basically
> anything about what is happening would be useful to talk about.
Are there any features present in the latest images that weren’t in the
2019 release that could be the basis of a post? I’ve been following the
Jan Wielkiewicz, le dim. 16 août 2020 21:00:26 +0200, a ecrit:
> > More than a grant, it's people that we would need (yes, a grant could
> > help here but in the end it's people that matter).
> I believe the website could help here, explanation below.
Sure. But also see below.
> > Being able to
Hello,
Andrew Eggenberger, le dim. 16 août 2020 12:55:29 -0500, a ecrit:
> I'd be willing to write updates for the website on a regular basis with some
> guidance about topics.
That'd be great! See the previous editions for the topics, but basically
anything about what is happening would be
Dnia 2020-08-16, o godz. 09:44:38
Joshua Branson napisał(a):
> Jan Wielkiewicz writes:
>
> Hey Jan,
>
> I'm an occasional Hurd web contribute (I haven't contributed anything
> useful in a while). I'm not really a Hurd developer, but if I can
> motivate/encourage you to achieve your goal,
Dnia 2020-08-16, o godz. 16:39:12
Samuel Thibault napisał(a):
> Hello,
>
> More than a grant, it's people that we would need (yes, a grant could
> help here but in the end it's people that matter).
I believe the website could help here, explanation below.
> Being able to work on people's
I'd be willing to write updates for the website on a regular basis with
some guidance about topics. One of the problems I'd had using the hurd
websites is that information is often duplicated with minor variations and
little indication of what is most up-to-date or relevant or its
presentation
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 16 août 2020 16:39:12 +0200, a ecrit:
> > Do you have anything against if I and my friend modernized the website?
> > It looks like abandonware and is really harmful for the project.
>
> It depends what you call "modernization". Putting javascript etc. is
> basically a
Hello,
Jan Wielkiewicz, le sam. 15 août 2020 18:51:27 +0200, a ecrit:
> I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there's a compeletely libre
> CPU+GPU OpenPOWER chip in development and I think supporting it in
> the Hurd will be crucial for free software.
> https://libre-soc.org/
That would be
Jan Wielkiewicz writes:
Hey Jan,
I'm an occasional Hurd web contribute (I haven't contributed anything
useful in a while). I'm not really a Hurd developer, but if I can
motivate/encourage you to achieve your goal, please let me know!
> Hello,
>
> I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but
Hello,
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there's a compeletely libre
CPU+GPU OpenPOWER chip in development and I think supporting it in
the Hurd will be crucial for free software.
https://libre-soc.org/
Full source code is available, drivers and firmware will be also under
a free license.
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