Re: Datasheet / Info for Motorola SC5330 IC?

2020-09-30 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
On 9/30/2020 3:40 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:41 PM Gavin Scott via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Josh wrote: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aqb36sqnCIfMpIVXm5draSrWHGMzJg Would these potentially be the sense amp / comparators for the core? I wonder if they were

Re: Intel Developers' Insight CD-ROM collection archived anywhere?

2020-09-30 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > Does anyone have a collection of Intel Developers' Insight CD-ROMs in > physical form or as images? The only physical CD-ROMs I have are a two > disk set from February 1998. I don't know what time period these were > available. Maybe mid or late

Intel Developers' Insight CD-ROM collection archived anywhere?

2020-09-30 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
Does anyone have a collection of Intel Developers' Insight CD-ROMs in physical form or as images? The only physical CD-ROMs I have are a two disk set from February 1998. I don't know what time period these were available. Maybe mid or late 1990s to early 2000s? They have a variety of information

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Liam Proven > Would the x86-32 "reimplementation" of v6 UNIX be able to mount and/or > read-write such filesystems? No, it looks like it uses a different fie-system layout. Besides; there's not much point: the big adantage of using V6 is that one can use the V6 tool-chain to

Re: HP 3000, APL\3000, the HP 2641A APL Display Station, and stuff.

2020-09-30 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
Eric wrote: > There was IBM APL\1130 version 2, introduced in 1969. It's actually sorta annoying when you discover how much HP copied from IBM in those days. The first giveaway is that APL\3000 has a backslash in the product name when everything else was a forward slash as in BASIC/3000,

Re: Datasheet / Info for Motorola SC5330 IC?

2020-09-30 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:41 PM Gavin Scott via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Josh wrote: > > https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aqb36sqnCIfMpIVXm5draSrWHGMzJg > > Would these potentially be the sense amp / comparators for the core? I > wonder if they were anything like: > >

Re: HP 3000, APL\3000, the HP 2641A APL Display Station, and stuff.

2020-09-30 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:22 PM Gavin Scott via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > APL on the 3000 was a project started at HP Labs > in Palo Alto in the early 1970s. [...] > This would be the first > full APL implementation on a "small" (non-mainframe) computer. > There was IBM APL\1130

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:35, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > Good basic idea (using a different system to build on), but there's a > better/easier approach (in the same basic vein): bring up V6, and mount the RK > pack with Mini-Unix on it (it's a V6 file system, so is mountable); V6 is rock

Re: Thoughts on restricted distribution documents (Dec Professional 350)

2020-09-30 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 6:11 PM Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > TIFF compression is lossless. > TIFF is only a container format ("Tagged Image File Format"). TIFF does not define any one compression. It in fact can contain either lossy or lossless compression, or even

Re: Datasheet / Info for Motorola SC5330 IC?

2020-09-30 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
Josh wrote: > https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aqb36sqnCIfMpIVXm5draSrWHGMzJg Would these potentially be the sense amp / comparators for the core? I wonder if they were anything like: https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/1092342/Motorola/MC1711L/1 which might have a similar application and take +15 and -7 on

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Warner Losh > If we can't use MINIUNIX to rebuild MINIUNIX kernel, should we try to > bodge together rebuilding via apout? Good basic idea (using a different system to build on), but there's a better/easier approach (in the same basic vein): bring up V6, and mount the RK pack

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
If we can't use MINIUNIX to rebuild MINIUNIX kernel, should we try to bodge together rebuilding via apout? I have done some work there for 2.11BSD stuff, but didn't need it for bootstrapping (just needed to use it to bootstrap as). Warner On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:09 PM Ray Jewhurst via cctalk <

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Ray Jewhurst via cctalk
Where would one find these images? I would like to get them working on Simh. Thanks Ray On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 4:02 PM John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 01:51 PM 9/30/2020, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >I guess all this PDP-11 hardware detail isn't really on-topic for this > list; I > >should move it

Re: Datasheet / Info for Motorola SC5330 IC?

2020-09-30 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
The Motorola SC prefix means a custom or semicustom part. Good luck! -- Will On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 4:05 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > I'm in the middle of working out the pinout for the power supply connector > on the MDP-1000. I'm aided somewhat by a set of test points on the >

Datasheet / Info for Motorola SC5330 IC?

2020-09-30 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
I'm in the middle of working out the pinout for the power supply connector on the MDP-1000. I'm aided somewhat by a set of test points on the backplane, unfortunately the "+" and "-" symbols (in the solder mask labels next to the test points) are nearly indiscernible, so I'm trying to verify that

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 01:51 PM 9/30/2020, Noel Chiappa wrote: >I guess all this PDP-11 hardware detail isn't really on-topic for this list; I >should move it to Classic Computers, or something. I've got Riordan's udis[01..10].DSK disk images that I presume are similar to

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
wrong   probably  my crippled  hands...  so there  wise ass! In a message dated 9/30/2020 12:27:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ge...@deltasoft.com writes: On Wed, 30 Sep 2020, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: >  http://www.smecc.org/motolola_government.htm IS  URL  DO NOT  KNOW  WHERE  >

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:  http://www.smecc.org/motolola_government.htm IS  URL  DO NOT  KNOW  WHERE  EXTRA LETTER  CAME  FROM  IT COMES FROM THAT GARBAGE FIRE OF AN EMAIL PROGRAM YOU INSIST ON USING! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The

Re: paging Jerome Fine

2020-09-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
I just spoke to Jerome on the phone a few days ago.  He just doesn't answer emails! I will be going to his house sometime in the near future, is there a message? cheers, Nigel Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! Skype: TILBURY2591

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/30/2020 6:41 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: I have a vintage computer sitting in the LA USPS since 9/17, Bill, I'm in Orange County, and items are moving in and out here (south of LA).  But they are all very small bubble pack and express mail type stuff. Sorry to hear of your

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
 http://www.smecc.org/motolola_government.htm IS  URL  DO NOT  KNOW  WHERE  EXTRA LETTER  CAME  FROM 

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
her is  the  Motorola  hi speed  teleprinter  and  this is  a little  calc  device   pretty  neatMotorola Military Electronics Division, Chicago Center 1450 Cicero Avenue Chicago 51 Illinois.  (Ed Groth Collection at SMECC) "http://www.smecc.org/motolo3.gif"   thanks  ed#    

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 30/09/2020 18:40, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 5:20 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: whats the story on this...i see items but no pix. also check your spelling on Motorola; Instrmentation and Control, Inc. that is in the index. let me now if there

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 5:20 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > whats the story on this...i see items but no pix. also check > your spelling on Motorola; Instrmentation and Control, Inc. that is in > the index. let me now if there is a photo group for this at least > with the

paging Jerome Fine

2020-09-30 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
Anyone know if Jerome Fine is still around and/or a good email address?

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
USPS (and UPS SurePost which is USPS last-mile-ish) have been delivering on schedule or often ahead of schedule to here in the Chicagoland area over the last month or so. USPS service has been excellent, with sometimes two deliveries per day (regular mail and small packages and a separate overflow

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: It seems to depend on which postal hub an item is shipped through. A few days ago, I received an item that was shipped USPS 3-day priority that spent 10 days in Las Vegas (point of origin). All in all, it took about 2 weeks to reach me here in

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Seems like the western US is a lot worse off than anywhere else in the US except maybe NYC. On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > It seems to depend on which postal hub an item is shipped through. > > A few days ago, I received an item that was

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
It seems to depend on which postal hub an item is shipped through. A few days ago, I received an item that was shipped USPS 3-day priority that spent 10 days in Las Vegas (point of origin). All in all, it took about 2 weeks to reach me here in Oregon. The USPS didn't say if the package was

RE: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
Bill D wrote: -- I have a vintage computer sitting in the LA USPS since 9/17, with no further updates. -- Just a few weeks ago I ordered a vintage fuel pump for an heirloom garden tractor restoration I'm doing. It came from ohio via ebay, and I had a couple phone conversations

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk > wrote: > > I have a vintage computer sitting in the LA USPS since 9/17, with no > further updates. I have read in the local papers there that the entire > post office has ground to a halt. That sounds like creative writing.

RE: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Ali via cctalk
Hi Bill, I haven't seen any issues with USPS in LA. It is actually been super smooth. For example I shipped out a package last week media mail. It was slated to arrive in Illinois tomorrow. Arrived yesterday, a whole two days early. Most of the stuff I have been getting from eBay has been

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Ed C. via cctalk
I was in a similar situation for 2 months with a couple of packages, April-June, in the end I received everything ok. On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:41 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I have a vintage computer sitting in the LA USPS since 9/17, with no > further updates.

Re: Thoughts on restricted distribution documents (Dec Professional 350)

2020-09-30 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2020-09-29 17:34, Bjoren Davis via cctalk wrote: > If it helps, I bought a copy of the DEC Professional 350 Field > Maintenance Print Set (MP-01394) on eBay a few months back. EXCELLENT! > > I've scanned it but I've been waffling about where to post it. Scanned > @600DPI with lossless

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2020-09-30 9:41 a.m., Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > I have a vintage computer sitting in the LA USPS since 9/17, with no > further updates. I have read in the local papers there that the entire > post office has ground to a halt. What's going on there? I have never > heard of anything like

Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

2020-09-30 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I have a vintage computer sitting in the LA USPS since 9/17, with no further updates. I have read in the local papers there that the entire post office has ground to a halt. What's going on there? I have never heard of anything like this. I assume my package will survive but think of the zoo

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
whats  the  story on  this...i  see  items   but no pix. also   check  your  spelling on Motorola; Instrmentation and Control, Inc.  that  is  in  the  index. let me  now  if  there  is a photo  group  for this at  least with the  covers   I always  wondered if it  was  just  a  12 bit 

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
i may have  posted   a link  yes  i k ow  cctalk is  lacking in image handling.  maybe  some  day  that  will  change. it was   years  back. it  may be  something josh has already... but  maybe not. neat  he  found  the  hardware!   In a message dated 9/30/2020 4:08:43 AM US Mountain Standard

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 9/30/20 4:07 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 9/30/20 3:12 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Josh I posted   photo  of  a manual  we  had   a long  time  but  not  too long if  you  want  to search  the   cctalk  here.. If you did, it was eaten, since cctlk doesn't allow attachements

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 9/30/20 3:12 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Josh I posted   photo  of  a manual  we  had   a long  time  but  not  too long if  you  want  to search  the   cctalk  here.. If you did, it was eaten, since cctlk doesn't allow attachements

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Josh I posted   photo  of  a manual  we  had   a long  time  but  not  too long if  you  want  to search  the   cctalk  here.. Also  always  wondered  which  plant built in... is  this  same   basically as  a  pbp 8  or   is  it  just that  they are both  12 bits?  Thanks  Ed# In a message

Re: Manuals for Imprimis/Seagate 5" Elite SMD/IPI drives

2020-09-30 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 9/29/20 11:03 PM, P Gebhardt wrote: I'd be *very*  interested to see docs on bitsavers, too. There are four IPI-2  drives (5-inch) in a SUN enclosure and I never came across any documents for them. Cheers, Pierre

Re: ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den ons 30 sep. 2020 kl 08:26 skrev Josh Dersch via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > Hi all -- > > This is a long shot, but I was curious if anyone might have information on > the Motorola MDP-1000 minicomputer. I picked one up recently and I'm > working on restoring it. Of particular

ISO: Motorola MDP-1000 info/software

2020-09-30 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
Hi all -- This is a long shot, but I was curious if anyone might have information on the Motorola MDP-1000 minicomputer. I picked one up recently and I'm working on restoring it. Of particular interest is the power supply, which is external to the processor and which I am missing. I think I

Re: Manuals for Imprimis/Seagate 5" Elite SMD/IPI drives

2020-09-30 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
> >one of the white whales. >anyone have OEM documentation for their 5" Elite SMD or IPI drives? > >The only thing I've ever been able to find was an installation manual for the >SMD verison I'd be *very*  interested to see docs on bitsavers, too. There are four IPI-2  drives (5-inch) in a SUN