Re: One more thing to fix... HP9000/380 power supply

2021-02-11 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2021-02-11 10:55 p.m., Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk wrote: This decade seems to have increased the number of failing things in such a way that the "to be repaired" backlog is growing much faster than I can get to diminish it. Argh.  A month ago my trusty HP9000/380 ran just fine

RE: One more thing to fix... HP9000/380 power supply

2021-02-11 Thread David Collins via cctalk
Carlos, from my experience in fixing a number of switch mode supplies in HP gear, if the supply is dead but you have full voltage across the big filter caps (~340v DC), it's typically a problem with the power supply to the regulator that drives the primary switching transistor. That 'power

One more thing to fix... HP9000/380 power supply

2021-02-11 Thread Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk
This decade seems to have increased the number of failing things in such a way that the "to be repaired" backlog is growing much faster than I can get to diminish it. Argh.  A month ago my trusty HP9000/380 ran just fine and I booted the different OS's in the SCSI and HPIB drives connected

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: I do seem recall using ESDI drives in a PC with 16 bit ISA slots but it is a long time ago but I am not sure if the controller used was the RT controller you have pictured, it seems to me the one used was a Western Digital controller. On

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2021-02-11 6:35 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: I do seem recall using ESDI drives in a PC with 16 bit ISA slots but it is a long time ago but I am not sure if the controller used was the RT controller you have pictured, it seems to me

Re: APL\360

2021-02-11 Thread Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk
Counting in binary on ones fingers was something I first ran into at age 11 when found a book on Military Electronics in a surplus store. Everything simplified, but in computer section found binary system explained with using fingers to represent bits. That was something that I used

Re: Apple 1 and memorabilia up for auction in Boston (NOT on Epay)

2021-02-11 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
A person would have to be pretty good to fool a lot of us here on this mailing list when presented with a fake Apple I. There are certain things that would give it away. Not saying it would be impossible but it would be eventually exposed. I can't imagine someone who knows art and appraisals

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/11/21 2:35 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > The most likely ISA ESDI would be the WD1007 controller. > There were a few variant submodels of that, such as with/without floppy > support, w/wo BIOS ROM. > >

RE: Digitalker 54104 IC

2021-02-11 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Most challanging was to figure out to make it say naughty things... and once you did  how it almost caused havoc in AZ On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: I suspect the answer to question #1 is no, but thought I would ask. 1) Anyone happen to have a known working

Re: Apple 1 and memorabilia up for auction in Boston (NOT on Epay)

2021-02-11 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > It's been estimated by experts that a third to half of the "original > artwork", previously valued at a total in the tens of billions in museums > and collectors' places, are counterfeits. 35 years ago I was in Anaheim for DECUS and

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: I do seem recall using ESDI drives in a PC with 16 bit ISA slots but it is a long time ago but I am not sure if the controller used was the RT controller you have pictured, it seems to me the one used was a Western Digital controller.  The

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2021-02-11 4:31 p.m., Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: Den tors 11 feb. 2021 kl 20:36 skrev Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: What is the best way of dumping the contents of an ESDI disk? Same as for ST506/412 I usually use

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 12:59 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 2/11/21 12:51 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 2/11/21 12:36 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: To what extent are ESDI controllers interchangeable with already written drives? That is completely unknown, since no one ever published any

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 12:51 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 2/11/21 12:36 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: To what extent are ESDI controllers interchangeable with already written drives? That is completely unknown, since no one ever published any data about it. It is likely that anything using the

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 12:36 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: To what extent are ESDI controllers interchangeable with already written drives? That is completely unknown, since no one ever published any data about it. It is likely that anything using the same chipsets will be similar, but beyond that

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 12:31 PM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: But then I thought, perhaps this is a more generic problem. People having ESDI drives (well, SMD as well I guess) that there is no controller available for or could be made running due to drivers or whatever. So what if those drives could be

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I'm a little confused on this. An ESDI drive, in my experience, behaves exactly like an ATA one, right down to the command set. ESDI drives can be soft-or-hard sectored. What am I missing? I'm more than a LITTLE confused by parts of this

IBM AS/400 and HP scope for sale in the UK

2021-02-11 Thread Al via cctalk
Dear all, I have been looking to downsize a bit in recent times and am looking to get rid of an IBM AS/400 9404 F10 and an HP 175a oscilloscope. As these things are large they are pickup only in the Petersfield area. I cannot guarantee either work. Although the scope comes with spares and does

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den tors 11 feb. 2021 kl 20:36 skrev Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > What is the best way of dumping the contents of an ESDI disk? > > Same as for ST506/412 > I usually use David Gessweins MFM emulator for dumping unknown

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den tors 11 feb. 2021 kl 19:05 skrev Al Kossow via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > On 2/11/21 9:25 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > > I have an original IBM Enhanced ESDI ISA controller board. Could that be > > used under Linux? > > It's unlikely anyone ever implemented a driver for it. >

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: What is the best way of dumping the contents of an ESDI disk? Same as for ST506/412 I have an original IBM Enhanced ESDI ISA controller board. Could that be used under Linux? Or NetBSD/FreeNSD? I googled but didn't find much. Do you have

Re: RX02 DMK image to raw tool?

2021-02-11 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> > That's right, for disks detected as RX01 (which are of course fully FM, 128 > > bytes per sector).__ Sector data that is actually 0xDEADBEEF will > > show up in the .dmk as 0xDDEEAADDBBFF. > > I've wondered why .dmk did that. Redunredundancydancy? --

Re: RX02 DMK image to raw tool?

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 10:00 AM, David Schmidt via cctech wrote: That's right, for disks detected as RX01 (which are of course fully FM, 128 bytes per sector).  Sector data that is actually 0xDEADBEEF will show up in the .dmk as 0xDDEEAADDBBFF. I've wondered why .dmk did that.

Re: RX02 DMK image to raw tool?

2021-02-11 Thread David Schmidt via cctalk
On 2/11/21 8:56 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: After sending my message I did some hard drive archeology and found the dmklib I downloaded five years ago. There were some adaptations to handle RX02 format and it worked quite well. At least when the disk has been read error free. However the version

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 11, 2021, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2/11/21 10:22 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > >> No. ESDI is similar to MFM, there is a differential read data pair on >> the 20-pin connector, but the data rate is much higher, 10, 15 or 20 >> MBit/sec, and used a different

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/11/21 10:22 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > No.  ESDI is similar to MFM, there is a differential read data pair on > the 20-pin connector, but the data rate is much higher, 10, 15 or 20 > MBit/sec, and used a different encoding scheme that gave more data > bits/flux transition.  I think the 34-pin

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 10:22 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: I think the 34-pin connector also allowed an additional head select bit, so you could have up to 16 heads. It also uses higher level serial command encoding http://bitsavers.org/pdf/cdc/discs/wren/77738076D2_CDC_ESDI_Specification_Nov84.pdf

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/11/2021 11:36 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I'm a little confused on this. An ESDI drive, in my experience, behaves exactly like an ATA one, right down to the command set. ESDI drives can be soft-or-hard sectored. No. ESDI is similar to MFM, there is a differential read data

Re: ENIAC 75th Anniversary Celebration

2021-02-11 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
...and the mysterious Compuseam running the event. On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 1:09 PM Tom Owad via cctalk wrote: > > On Feb 11, 2021, at 1:00 PM, Brian L. Stuart via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > - Bill Mauchly and Chris Eckert, sons of the ENIAC > > creators > > - Bill Mensch,

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 10:03 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: Al's right in this case. In addition to the controller almost certainly using a different low-level format than whatever your friend's disk was written with Another issue with ESDI is the drive has the data separator on it and the data rates

Re: ENIAC 75th Anniversary Celebration

2021-02-11 Thread Tom Owad via cctalk
> On Feb 11, 2021, at 1:00 PM, Brian L. Stuart via cctalk > wrote: > > - Bill Mauchly and Chris Eckert, sons of the ENIAC > creators > - Bill Mensch, part of the 6502 engineering team > - Kathy Kleiman, producer of the ENIAC programmers > documentary Is there a connection between the ENIAC and

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 9:25 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: I have an original IBM Enhanced ESDI ISA controller board. Could that be used under Linux? It's unlikely anyone ever implemented a driver for it. Is this the one used in the PC/RT with on-board DMA mastering?

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
I'm talking about the DEC Q-BUS DSA world where there never was any ATA :-) Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! Skype: TILBURY2591 nw.john...@ieee.org On 2021-02-11 1:03 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 2/11/21

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:45 AM Nigel Johnson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 2021-02-11 12:41 p.m., Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 2/11/21 9:33 AM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > >> I'm about to try the very same thing. > >> > >> I have a MicroVAX II with a sigma MSCP

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/11/21 9:40 AM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > Doesn't ATA transfer the data in parallel?  ESDI uses the same two > connectors as MFM (20/36 IIRC) , and transfers the data serially.  The > difference between MFM and ESDI is that MFM transfers the raw analogue > data over the cable but ESDI

ENIAC 75th Anniversary Celebration

2021-02-11 Thread Brian L. Stuart via cctalk
This evening begins a series of events celebrating the 75th anniversary of the unveiling of the ENIAC at the University of Pennsylvania.  On the 11th and 18th, the Philadelphia Venture Cafe will be hosting virtual round tables with a number of us who have some connection to the ENIAC and

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
On 2021-02-11 12:41 p.m., Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 2/11/21 9:33 AM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: >> I'm about to try the very same thing. >> >> I have a MicroVAX II with a sigma MSCP ESDI controller.  It can be set >> for soft-secoring or various numbers of hard sectors.  That is what

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 9:33 AM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: I'm about to try the very same thing. I have a MicroVAX II with a sigma MSCP ESDI controller.  It can be set for soft-secoring or various numbers of hard sectors.  That is what I see is the big issue with these drives. A friend gave me two

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Doesn't ATA transfer the data in parallel?  ESDI uses the same two connectors as MFM (20/36 IIRC) , and transfers the data serially.  The difference between MFM and ESDI is that MFM transfers the raw analogue data over the cable but ESDI transfers digital serial data. Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE,

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/11/21 9:36 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: An ESDI drive, in my experience, behaves exactly like an ATA one, right down to the command set. ESDI drives can be soft-or-hard sectored. What am I missing? What do you do if the controller and drive don't match? ESDI and RLL versions of

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/11/21 9:25 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > What is the best way of dumping the contents of an ESDI disk? > > I have an original IBM Enhanced ESDI ISA controller board. Could that be > used under Linux? Or NetBSD/FreeNSD? I googled but didn't find much. > > Is there any other way of

Re: Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
I'm about to try the very same thing. I have a MicroVAX II with a sigma MSCP ESDI controller.  It can be set for soft-secoring or various numbers of hard sectors.  That is what I see is the big issue with these drives. A friend gave me two drives that had been written on a PC under *nix. I do

Wanted: Info on Optisys/Optidisk WORM file system

2021-02-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I have a bunch of Panasonic/Matsushita 470/940 MB phase-change WORM discs here--and the appropriate drive (Panasonic LF-5010 SCSI-2) to read them. Unlike CD-R media, however, the format of these discs is not anything standard--they were essentially treated as hard disks. So, adding a file

Reading ESDI disks

2021-02-11 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
What is the best way of dumping the contents of an ESDI disk? I have an original IBM Enhanced ESDI ISA controller board. Could that be used under Linux? Or NetBSD/FreeNSD? I googled but didn't find much. Is there any other way of dumping the disk contents? In theory it should be just a matter

New pinion gears for plotters...

2021-02-11 Thread geneb via cctalk
For those of you with the Atari & Commodore pen plotters that have broken pinion gears, there's now a guy making new ones in brass: https://www.soigeneris.com/alps-printer-plotter-mechanism-pinion-gears g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

Re: RX02 DMK image to raw tool?

2021-02-11 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den mån 8 feb. 2021 kl 20:39 skrev David Schmidt via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org>: > On 2/8/21 1:00 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: > > I wrote my own, not knowing where another one lived. I happen to think > in Java, so that's what it's implemented in. > > Description is here: > >