FTGH for pickup in So Cal v3: Power Macs, DuoDock, Compaq 486, ...

2021-08-03 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
A number of the prior systems were picked up or other arrangements made, and a couple more pulled from storage to make room. As before, these are FREE TO A GOOD HOME but you have to come PICK UP from various locations in the Riverside-San Bernardino, CA region. Contact me privately if interested.

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/3/21 4:51 PM, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Dennis Boone via cctalk Sent: 03 August 2021 21:31 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Help reading a 9 track tape > It was intended to be a stop-gap, to be discarded when the ICL was

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> Well you could ask Silverfrost who now own it. I think a lot of Salford > Pr1me software was lost. Vague memory suggests that someone did, and that they don't have it any more. When I asked Rob Jung, ex-Primate, if he still had the Prime version of his ARJ compressor, he didn't have that

Re: For Sale: FANUC A860 papertape reader with DOSTEK BTR (adapter)

2021-08-03 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
thanks Jim.you don't want to know what I paid for all of this, plus the time I put into the project, but there is a point where you have to cut bait. Hopefully someone else will want it,. Others selling just the same DostEK adapter price closer to $500, but without it the FANUK is kind of

RE: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Dennis Boone > via cctalk > Sent: 03 August 2021 21:31 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Help reading a 9 track tape > > > It was intended to be a stop-gap, to be discarded when the ICL was > > replaced with PR1ME. However the

Re: For Sale: FANUC A860 papertape reader with DOSTEK BTR (adapter)

2021-08-03 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 8/2/2021 7:22 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: FANUC A860-0056-T020 Papertape Reader and DOSTEK 440A BTR https://www.ebay.com/itm/274883740917 Ebay listing includes my project notes. Hopefully someone here will want it. Bill I see that to ship from you to the Los Angeles area is

Re: Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/3/21 1:12 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Aug 3, 2021, at 3:28 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> >> ... >> One of my favorite 6000 bits of code was the register save and restore >> routines (not using CEJ). It was a favorite interview question for >> those job seekers claiming to be proficient

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> It was intended to be a stop-gap, to be discarded when the ICL was > replaced with PR1ME. However the PR1ME was benchmarked with Fortran 66. > When Pr1me Fortran 77 was delivered its performance was "pants" so the > "stop gap" ICL compiler was ported to PR1ME... Wish we could find that

Re: Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/3/21 11:58 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > Mostly true; some machines had the "compare-move unit" which would do what it > says -- move or compare string of 6-bit characters". But nothing fancier. I think the CMU arrived with the CYBER 7x line--I don't recall seeing a 6400 with one. Of

Re: Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 3, 2021, at 2:44 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 8/3/21 9:46 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: > >> Hardware makes software interesting, or is it the other way around? >> With C being developed on a PDP 11, you had no decimal operations, >> but IBM had PL/I that did. Every thing

Re: Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/3/21 9:46 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: > Hardware makes software interesting, or is it the other way around? > With C being developed on a PDP 11, you had no decimal operations, > but IBM had PL/I that did. Every thing was binary floating point > since then, until the latest standard of

Re: Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2021-08-02 5:07 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: IS the specialty of the language WRITING COMPILERS?  If not, it would seem that a better compiler for that language would be written in a language best suited for writing compilers (strong string/text handling and parsing, suitable tree

Europe-based restorer of old mechanical keyboards?

2021-08-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I am not a collector exactly -- I just salvaged a bunch when they were being sent to recycling. My Model Ms are going strong, no bolt mod needed, but I also have 2 Apple Extended II and an Extended I and both, sadly, need some attention. I am almost devoid of electronics skills. Does anyone know

Re: Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread dwight via cctalk
Recompiling Forth was always such a trivial process, there was no reason to not recompile itself using itself. It was also a good check of the output. One could compare the output and check any differences to ensure that they were intended. One could run it twice again as a check as well. It

Re: Skew vs. interleave

2021-08-03 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Good question. You obviously understand the issue, but others might not. So, here is the background: This was a great read, Fred. Thanks for taking the time to write it up! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The

For sale: FANUC Tape Reader and Adapter

2021-08-03 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I put my FANUC tape reader for sale on Ebay, if anyone might be interested:

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 2, 2021, at 8:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctech > wrote: > > On 8/2/21 8:11 AM, James Liu via cctech wrote: >> Thanks for feedback and offers to assist. > > Happy to contirubte. > >> For some background, Tini Veltman developed Schoonship in the 1960's >> at CERN on the CDC 6600. My

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/2/21 8:11 AM, James Liu via cctech wrote: > Thanks for feedback and offers to assist. Happy to contirubte. > For some background, Tini Veltman developed Schoonship in the 1960's > at CERN on the CDC 6600. My understanding is that he more or less > insisted on coding in assembly since he

Re: Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-03 Thread Stefan Skoglund via cctalk
mån 2021-08-02 klockan 20:00 -0500 skrev Gavin Scott via cctalk: > > > Another interesting question is whether the currently shipping > version > of a language written in itself was compiled using the same version > of > itself or the previous version. I recall HP compilers generally being >