[cctalk] Re: NewtonOS

2023-08-29 Thread Ben Huntsman via cctalk
Haha, I was just poking at my old BB too. I miss that thing, it was pretty nice when hooked up to a BES. The iPhone has been the only device I ever liked better, and even then not every aspect. With RIM all but defunct I’d love to see the BB OS source be released some day too. Of course

[cctalk] Re: NewtonOS

2023-08-29 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 7:38 PM David Arnold via cctalk wrote: > > Some of you might recall that Apple released a series of machines based > on the Newton OS in the early 1990s. BTDT, got the shirt. https://i.imgur.com/pgFDNrO.png

[cctalk] Re: NewtonOS

2023-08-29 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Finishing up The BB and Palm and Treo were faster and far more usable that the Newton. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2023, at 18:59, Wayne S wrote: > > I used a newton and still have it a box. It was heavy and very slow. > Graffiti didn’t work very well either. Microsoft came put with

[cctalk] Re: NewtonOS

2023-08-29 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
I used a newton and still have it a box. It was heavy and very slow. Graffiti didn’t work very well either. Microsoft came put with their first notepad running Win/NT a few years after that but it was slow too. I think Newton was just ahead of it’s time. The cpu’s needed to run it efficiently

[cctalk] Re: NewtonOS

2023-08-29 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 8/29/23 7:28 PM, David Arnold wrote: Some of you might recall that Apple released a series of machines based on the Newton OS in the early 1990s. ACK How do Palm Pilot's compare to the Newton? I had someone I respect and trust make a lot of comparisons between a Palm T3 (?) I used to

[cctalk] Re: NewtonOS

2023-08-29 Thread Nigel Williams via cctalk
Thanks David for taking this on. I think there are many who would welcome Apple releasing Newton as they did for the early Macintosh implementations.

[cctalk] Re: OT: Moon (Was: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 29, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > I was worried before the first lunar landing, because prior to sending > passengers, they had never previously managed a soft landing, nor take-off > from anywhere but Earth. That's only partly true. The Surveyor craft had

[cctalk] NewtonOS

2023-08-29 Thread David Arnold via cctalk
Some of you might recall that Apple released a series of machines based on the Newton OS in the early 1990s.  There were eight models in total from Apple, and a few more from third parties who licensed both the hardware and software to make eg. ruggedized handhelds, or "smart" (landline)

[cctalk] Re: OT: Moon (Was: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I was worried before the first lunar landing, because prior to sending passengers, they had never previously managed a soft landing, nor take-off from anywhere but Earth. Then, one of the Sci-Fi magazines included a very short story (a couple of paragraphs), in which the capsule settled down

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 29, 2023, at 8:03 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 7:02 AM Gavin Scott via cctalk > wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk >> wrote: >>> You reckon someone in Moscow is wishing they heard about this trick a >> week

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 7:02 AM Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > You reckon someone in Moscow is wishing they heard about this trick a > week ago? > > They instead chose the ever-popular Simplified Planetary Landing > Approach

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 8/29/23 06:30, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Oh baloney. As long as the backplane pins are not mushed these are surprisingly easy to fix and mouse crap can be vacuumed out and cleaned off the cards and pins. The thing that drove me the most nuts was finding a backplane wire that had worn

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
I hate what epay is doing to our hobby. I prefer to sell and trade between our selves as reasonable prices understanding that a lot of what we do is sweat equity. If you think the hobby is bad, you should see what happened to housing. "I know what I got!" I have a lot of different geeky

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > You reckon someone in Moscow is wishing they heard about this trick a week > ago? They instead chose the ever-popular Simplified Planetary Landing Approach Trajectory.

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
-BUT- That does not mean it *can't* be restored, only that $15,000 is ridiculous for a machine that clearly needs an expert with time and money. b On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 7:54 AM Mattis Lind via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Den tis 29 aug. 2023 kl 13:30 skrev Chris Zach via cctalk <

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den tis 29 aug. 2023 kl 13:30 skrev Chris Zach via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > Oh baloney. As long as the backplane pins are not mushed these are > surprisingly easy to fix and mouse crap can be vacuumed out and cleaned > off the cards and pins. > > The thing that drove me the most nuts

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Oh baloney. As long as the backplane pins are not mushed these are surprisingly easy to fix and mouse crap can be vacuumed out and cleaned off the cards and pins. The thing that drove me the most nuts was finding a backplane wire that had worn through its insualtion and shorted against

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-29 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Fred Cisin wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2023, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: My trick for successful landing the CDC Cyber/6000 series lunar lander version was to set the initial height above the moon's surface to the minimum height of 1' and then let it drop. I never successful landed from the