[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I still have a TEK 475A (with the DMM4 on top) and a TEK 11043A mainframe scope. The 475A is rock solid and is one of the best analog triggering scopes ever made.  The 11403A goes all the way up to 3GHz but, tbh, is was a difficult to use touch screen scope.  I still use both of them

[cctalk] Re: EMP was: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Just Kant via cctalk
Accordimg to certain individuals on this list, going back a few years, electronics/computers can be damaged due to an electrical storm, presumably very intense activity, even while off. Go look through the archives. I knew people back in the 80s that said they could "torque" certain

[cctalk] Re: EMP was: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Well, if you're after an EMP-tolerant oscilloscope, there's always the mirror-galvanometer + rotating mirror variety. Precedes the development of the CRT by quite a bit. Runs fine with clockwork. It's amazing what can be done with simple electrics and mechanics. Anyone remember using the

[cctalk] Re: EMP was: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Christian Kennedy via cctalk
On 4/1/24 17:42, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: Will things like PDAs and tablets, powered off and stored inside steel ammo boxes survive? Yes, as will most contemporary electronics, even without elaborate protection. The amount of current induced in a device by EMP is a function of the

[cctalk] Re: The 8008

2024-04-01 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
thanks. I thought there was maybe one specific item, but it's nice to have a bibliography to choose from! Appreciated Bill On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:17 PM Murray McCullough via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I have not read the history of Intel lately but here are articles

[cctalk] Re: The 8008

2024-04-01 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
Hi Bill, I have not read the history of Intel lately but here are articles I have read starting with: https://www.techspot.com/article/1397-intel-8008-microprocessor/ Over the course of the last month or so this is what I’ve read:

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
I used to have a Tek 453(?) that was really nice. I sold it when I got a Tek 7201(?) 1Ghz model. I recently sold it. I hated getting rid of it but it was big enough to be used as a small desk and weighed more than my back could handle any more. I still have a 561A that I've been meaning to

[cctalk] Re: EMP was: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread CAREY SCHUG via cctalk
Will things like PDAs and tablets, powered off and stored inside steel ammo boxes survive? wrapped in layers of aluminum foil inside a small ammo box inside a larger ammo box? In an ammo box buried in copper pennies? Back when they were taking copper out of pennies, I stocked up on the all

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2024, at 8:14 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2024Apr 1,, at 3:33 PM, Just Kant via cctalk wrote: >> >> I have more then I need. All the working ones are HP w/color crts, and as >> far as older, verifiably vintage tools (right down to the 680x0 processor in >>

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2024Apr 1,, at 3:33 PM, Just Kant via cctalk wrote: > > I have more then I need. All the working ones are HP w/color crts, and as far > as older, verifiably vintage tools (right down to the 680x0 processor in > either) I have to admit I favor them as a brand. Call we an oddball, weird >

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2024, at 8:09 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > > On 4/1/2024 7:12 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: And still works! Built to withstand an atomic bombardment. >> Except for the EMP. It'll theoretically render such devices nice looking, >> well-built scrap. >>

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/1/2024 7:12 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: And still works! Built to withstand an atomic bombardment. Except for the EMP. It'll theoretically render such devices nice looking, well-built scrap. The old completely vacuum-tube-based, discrete component oscilloscope from back in

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/1/2024 6:56 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, Just Kant via cctalk wrote: I have more then I need. All the working ones are HP w/color crts, and as far as older, verifiably vintage tools (right down to the 680x0 processor in either) I have to admit I favor them as a

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
I have 2 of the Non-Linear Systems (NLS) oscilloscopes that you speak of. Still working Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2024, at 16:21, Rick Bensene via cctalk > wrote: > >  >> >>> And still works! Built to withstand an atomic bombardment. > > Except for the EMP. It'll theoretically

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
>> And still works! Built to withstand an atomic bombardment. Except for the EMP. It'll theoretically render such devices nice looking, well-built scrap. The old completely vacuum-tube-based, discrete component oscilloscope from back in the day may actually survive such an event if it's

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, Just Kant via cctalk wrote: I have more then I need. All the working ones are HP w/color crts, and as far as older, verifiably vintage tools (right down to the 680x0 processor in either) I have to admit I favor them as a brand. Call we an oddball, weird egg, badges I wear

[cctalk] oscilloscopes

2024-04-01 Thread Just Kant via cctalk
I have more then I need. All the working ones are HP w/color crts, and as far as older, verifiably vintage tools (right down to the 680x0 processor in either) I have to admit I favor them as a brand. Call we an oddball, weird egg, badges I wear with pride. But who could resist the allure of

[cctalk] Re: The 8008

2024-04-01 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
are these articles available/online? maybe others might like them too. Thanks in advance Bill On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:29 AM Murray McCullough via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I’ve read with great interest, over the past short while, a few interesting > articles on the history of

[cctalk] The 8008

2024-04-01 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
I’ve read with great interest, over the past short while, a few interesting articles on the history of the Intel 8008(officially released in April 1972) as it was the forerunner of what was to become the personal computer industry. And done with less than 4000 transistors. I saw one at a computer

[cctalk] WAS: Amoeba OS, Now: VAX/VMS Licensing?

2024-04-01 Thread W2HX via cctalk
Hi all, I am completely ignorant when it comes to VMS licensing and how it works (or worked). I purchased a MicroVAX that is running VMS V5.3. Do I need to worry about it ceasing to work at some point? I don’t have any paperwork for the license, just a running machine. What should I know about

[cctalk] Re: WAS: Amoeba OS, Now: VAX/VMS Licensing?

2024-04-01 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 01/04/2024 00:45, W2HX wrote: Hi all, I am completely ignorant when it comes to VMS licensing and how it works (or worked). I purchased a MicroVAX that is running VMS V5.3. Do I need to worry about it ceasing to work at some point? I don’t have any paperwork for the license, just a running