Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-24 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:00 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Jesse/Cypress said "fifty bucks" for one. > I can come up with fifty bucks for you. > I don't really care one way or another about the eBay thing, which may or may not actually be related to Cypress, but I think it's great that

RE: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-24 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Jesse/Cypress said "fifty bucks" for one. I can come up with fifty bucks for you. Work out the details with him, and tell me the Paypal address. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com On Wed, 23 Jan 2019, Jay West via cctalk wrote: OMG no, that hurts more than just my heart

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-24 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:03 AM William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > Good, older MLCCs can be up to 3 or 4 percent Palladium by weight. > Modern-ish ones can be zero, but are often maybe 0.1 percent. I just checked - spot Palladium price is $44/g. If you take 1 lb of these older MLCCs and

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-24 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Good, older MLCCs can be up to 3 or 4 percent Palladium by weight. Modern-ish ones can be zero, but are often maybe 0.1 percent. It adds up. Remember, Palladium is *heavy*, ceramic is not. -- Will On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > On 01/23/2019 08:20 PM, ED

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-24 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
I know folks get bent out of shape over board scrap listings, but like Will said, there's actual money in those boards. It's my opinion that it benefits the hobby to have scrappers listing stuff on eBay rather than just putting them in the next Gaylord to go to the gold refiner guy. Of course, I'd

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 01/23/2019 08:20 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: I learn something new then... when was palladium used? was it around in the 2100 hp days or was this used later? and I had not heard of it? If palladium was used, it was in VANISHINGLY small quantities. Many circuit

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
--- > From: William Donzelli [mailto:wdonze...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 4:38 PM > To: Jay West ; General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts > Cc: Chris Hanson > Subject: Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage > > Why not offer them a ni

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I learn something  new  then... when   was  palladium used?   was it  around in  the  2100  hp  days or  was this   used  later?   and  I had not heard of  it? Ed#In a message dated 1/23/2019 6:47:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, paulkon...@comcast.net writes: palladium

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 23, 2019, at 8:39 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk > wrote: > > tantalum maybe? > Ed# > In a message dated 1/23/2019 3:26:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > palladium claim. Tantalum caps are electrolytic type. The original reference speaks of multilayer

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
tantalum maybe? Ed# In a message dated 1/23/2019 3:26:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: palladium claim.

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
dnesday, January 23, 2019 4:38 PM > To: Jay West ; General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts > Cc: Chris Hanson > Subject: Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage > > Why not offer them a nice pile of money for just that board - make it worth > their while to

RE: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread Jay West via cctalk
for just that one board. -Original Message- From: William Donzelli [mailto:wdonze...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 4:38 PM To: Jay West ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Chris Hanson Subject: Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage Why not offer t

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 3:34 PM Jay West via cctalk wrote: > OMG no, that hurts more than just my heart because: That top board on the > stack is a 12922, part of that 3 board mux set for TSB. I sure wish I had > some spare cash at the moment. > > The ebay seller lists as "Cypress"? Pushing them

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Why not offer them a nice pile of money for just that board - make it worth their while to update the auction? -- Will On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 5:34 PM Jay West via cctalk wrote: > > OMG no, that hurts more than just my heart because: That top board on the > stack is a 12922, part of that 3

RE: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread Jay West via cctalk
OMG no, that hurts more than just my heart because: That top board on the stack is a 12922, part of that 3 board mux set for TSB. I sure wish I had some spare cash at the moment. The ebay seller lists as "Cypress"? Pushing them out for gold? -Original Message- From: cctalk

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Maybe not the 450 dollars asking, but likely at least 250 dollars for the pile. It is HP - thick plate everywhere, in the ICs, and probably a few other places. Getting E-scrap refined is very expensive to do in small batches. To make it feasible, about a ton of good gold bearing scrap is needed

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Would it really though? How much gold would you actually get from that? If it’s really that much, why would the seller be selling it instead of keeping it for themselves? -- Chris > On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:59 PM, William Donzelli wrote: > > That would be a LOT of pennies of gold. > > But

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
That would be a LOT of pennies of gold. But people on this list do not like to hear this. -- Will On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:57 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > > This hurts my heart: > > HP Gold vintage 1970's high yeld recovery plated ic chips leads w palladium > caps >