Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 21:32, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > As for operating system support, the only DEC operating system which could put > tapes and disks on the same Massbus was TOPS-20. Tops-10 explicitly tells you > in the SYSGEN process that disks and tapes must reside on different

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 2021-02-26 9:40 a.m., Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Toby Thain wrote: >> Rich Alderson wrote: >>> You could ask our friends Keith Perez (Massbus Disk Emulator v1) and >>> Bruce Sherry (MDE v2) about it, or even ask me. ... produced, and >>> we had to do something. My brilliant friend Keith sat

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 2/26/2021 8:40 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: Toby Thain wrote: Rich Alderson wrote: You could ask our friends Keith Perez (Massbus Disk Emulator v1) and Bruce Sherry (MDE v2) about it, or even ask me. ... produced, and we had to do something. My brilliant friend Keith sat down

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

Toby Thain wrote: > Rich Alderson wrote: >> You could ask our friends Keith Perez (Massbus Disk Emulator v1) and >> Bruce Sherry (MDE v2) about it, or even ask me. ... produced, and >> we had to do something. My brilliant friend Keith sat down with a >> logic analyzer and an RP06 attached to a

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 2021-02-25 8:55 p.m., Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > ... > Hey, Josh! You could ask our friends Keith Perez (Massbus Disk Emulator v1) > and Bruce Sherry (MDE v2) about it, or even ask me. > ... > produced, and we had to do something. My brilliant friend Keith sat down with > a logic

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

Rich Alderson wrote: > As for operating system support, the only DEC operating system which > could put tapes and disks on the same Massbus was TOPS-20. Tops-10 > explicitly tells you in the SYSGEN process that disks and tapes must > reside on different channels; I believe that ITS follows that

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 12:37:25 -0800 > From: Josh Dersch via cctalk > On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:27 PM Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: >> On 2/25/21 10:43 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >>> Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the >>> MASSBUS overall? >>

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 2/25/2021 1:37 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:27 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 2/25/21 10:43 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the MASSBUS overall? there is some documentation on

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2/25/21 12:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > >> Interesting... Is this obfuscation documented anywhere (beyond looking at >> SIMH code?) > Not that I know of. Thinking about it some more I think that it was the > massbus device

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 2/25/21 12:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: Interesting... Is this obfuscation documented anywhere (beyond looking at SIMH code?) Not that I know of. Thinking about it some more I think that it was the massbus device addresses behind the controllers that weren't documented

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:27 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 2/25/21 10:43 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the > MASSBUS overall? > > there is some documentation on bitsavers > > the register descriptions were

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 2/25/21 10:43 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the MASSBUS overall? there is some documentation on bitsavers the register descriptions were intentionally obfuscated to prevent cloning that was figured out to make SIMH

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

In answer to my own question: No it does not based on a bit of review. Looks like unique cards to the 11/70. C On 2/25/2021 1:43 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the MASSBUS overall? For example I wonder if the RH70 could

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

That is at least one RH11-AB in there, minus the knucklebusters of course. On 2/25/2021 1:49 PM, Bill Degnan wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:43 PM Chris Zach via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

The PDP-10 KL10 at the RCS/RI was used to control a real-time flight simulator at Sikorski. It had one of the RH20 Massbus controllers connected to a DTR01 cabinet holding a DR01 chassis. The DR01 was, I think, connected to a DR11 chassis that had A/D and D/A converters boards inside. You could

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the > MASSBUS overall? > > For example I wonder if the RH70 could do a transfer >128kb at a time. ... I don't know the answer to most of your questions,

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:43 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the > MASSBUS overall? > > For example I wonder if the RH70 could do a transfer >128kb at a time. > Another is around the RH11: There were two models, the

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the MASSBUS overall? For example I wonder if the RH70 could do a transfer >128kb at a time. Another is around the RH11: There were two models, the traditional RH11 (which could only do so many words on a DMA transfer) and the

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Paul Koning > >> There's a good reason why the big disks on many DEC machines were Massbus >> devices until MSCP arrived. It's quite clear on Unibus PDP-11s, which >> needed Massbus both for speed and for a cleaner

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> From: Paul Koning > There's a good reason why the big disks on many DEC machines were Massbus > devices until MSCP arrived. It's quite clear on Unibus PDP-11s, which > needed Massbus both for speed and for a cleaner answer to more-than-18 > bit addressing. I follow the

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:40 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 7:06 AM Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > >> Yes, the TM02 and TM03 formatters allowed MASSBUS to connect to Pertec >> drives, but I don't think you could run a tape drive and a disk drive on >> the

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 7:06 AM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Yes, the TM02 and TM03 formatters allowed MASSBUS to connect to Pertec > drives, but I don't think you could run a tape drive and a disk drive on > the same MASSBUS channel anyway. Wonder why, technically the MASSBUS > cable is just

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Chris Zach > >> technically the MASSBUS cable is just an extension of the Unibus > > No. > > For one thing, the MASSBUS has no lines for carrying memory addresses. So > there is no way to even build a box that

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> From: Chris Zach > technically the MASSBUS cable is just an extension of the Unibus No. For one thing, the MASSBUS has no lines for carrying memory addresses. So there is no way to even build a box that 'translates' MASSBUS to UNIBUS; the semantics ('the things you can say',

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

Do you have 3-phase power?  Will they even spin up? I do, but I don't care enough about them to try. I just want them gone. Bring your own fork lift, the battery in mine is dead and they are 15 feet up.

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

> On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > >> I happen to have a massbus adapter and the cabling with terminator for my >> 11/750, but I never came across any massbus peripherals. Considering the >> price back then and the size for these, they seem nowadays quite rare,

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 02/24/2021 12:26 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: I have two RP07s sitting on the upper mezanine here that were left behind by the former tennant of the building my shop is in. Do you have 3-phase power? Will they even spin up? Jon

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

I have two RP07s sitting on the upper mezanine here that were left behind by the former tennant of the building my shop is in.

Re: VAX 11/750

On 2/23/21 10:57 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is impressive and all that. I started on an 11/750 in 1984. They are fantastic little machines. If you only

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

Well, I had a program that could examine the home blocks, and I knew where to find the backup home blocks.  So, I hacked that program to copy the backup block to the main one, and then change the checksums to agree. That is one way to avoid a very long restore :-) The other issue is the

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

Yep. I actually had one. The lid flew off the top of it while we were driving it back from Eastern shore to Baltimore on Rt. 50 but the rest of it was intact. Very different MBA controller from an RM02/03. Unfortunately when Doug closed up the storage place someone swiped MC from there before

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 2021-02-24 11:06 a.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 02/24/2021 08:06 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >> >> Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be honest weird system >> that DEC developed in an attempt to be like IBM and charge very high >> markups for generic peripherals.

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

On 02/24/2021 08:06 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be honest weird system that DEC developed in an attempt to be like IBM and charge very high markups for generic peripherals. While it did support a variety of interface formats (I don't think

Re: VAX 11/750

Den ons 24 feb. 2021 kl 04:57 skrev Ethan Dicks via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is > > impressive and all that. > > I started on an 11/750 in 1984. They

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

I happen to have a massbus adapter and the cabling with terminator for my 11/750, but I never came across any massbus peripherals. Considering the price back then and the size for these, they seem nowadays quite rare, which is a real pity. Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be

Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

Am Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2021, 03:53:19 MEZ hat Chris Zach via cctalk Folgendes geschrieben: >Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is >impressive and all that. However it doesn't look like that one has a >MASSBUS adapter so I will have to pass... > >And I

Re: VAX 11/750

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is > impressive and all that. I started on an 11/750 in 1984. They are fantastic little machines. If you only have 3-4 users on them, they are quite peppy. >

Re: VAX 11/750

Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is impressive and all that. However it doesn't look like that one has a MASSBUS adapter so I will have to pass... And I just gave away a M7850 memory board :-) C On 2/23/2021 8:02 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On

Re: VAX 11/750

On 2/23/21 4:16 PM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk wrote: > Hi! > > Just stumbled over https://www.ebay.de/itm/265064917329 . Is it a > system somebody of you is offering? Given that it would need to be > shipped through Europe and is in unknown condition, I'd probably > bid a few Euros on it. >

VAX 11/750

Hi! Just stumbled over https://www.ebay.de/itm/265064917329 . Is it a system somebody of you is offering? Given that it would need to be shipped through Europe and is in unknown condition, I'd probably bid a few Euros on it. MfG, JBG --

TU58 dumps. Mostly VAX 11/750 AND 11/730 diags and console tapes.

I dumped almost 50 TU58 tapes. They were given to me by an ex DEC FS engineer. Most of them are various 11/750 diagnostics. The tapes or not the official DEC TU58 tapes but home brewed tapes used in FS so there might not be an exact match to existing lists of official tapes. But they might be

Re: Help identifying mystery Dataram VAX-11/750 (?) board

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:11 PM Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:42 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk > wrote: > > > > I think I may have answered my own question here; looks like it's for a VAX > > 8000 series: > > > > https://www.wikiwand.com/en/VAX_8000 > >

Re: Help identifying mystery Dataram VAX-11/750 (?) board

On 16/07/2020 22:38, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:11 PM Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: Obviously now you need to pick up a VAX 8000 system. That does seem to be the most logical next step, yes :). - Josh I think I have a load board for one somewhere ... No idea

Re: Help identifying mystery Dataram VAX-11/750 (?) board

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:11 PM Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:42 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk > wrote: > > > > I think I may have answered my own question here; looks like it's for a > VAX > > 8000 series: > > > > https://www.wikiwand.com/en/VAX_8000 > > < >

Re: Help identifying mystery Dataram VAX-11/750 (?) board

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:42 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > I think I may have answered my own question here; looks like it's for a VAX > 8000 series: > > https://www.wikiwand.com/en/VAX_8000 >

Re: Help identifying mystery Dataram VAX-11/750 (?) board

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:42 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:34 PM Josh Dersch wrote: > > Picked up a board advertised as a "4mb memory board" for a VAX-11/750... > > I think I may have answered my own question here; looks like it'

Re: Help identifying mystery Dataram VAX-11/750 (?) board

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:34 PM Josh Dersch wrote: > Hi all -- > > Picked up a board advertised as a "4mb memory board" for a VAX-11/750. > It's made by Dataram and I'm unsure of the model number, based on photos of > it. I just noticed that rather than being a h

Help identifying mystery Dataram VAX-11/750 (?) board

Hi all -- Picked up a board advertised as a "4mb memory board" for a VAX-11/750. It's made by Dataram and I'm unsure of the model number, based on photos of it. I just noticed that rather than being a hex-height board that goes in the memory backplane, it looks like a board that goes i

Re: ISO: L0022 memory controller for VAX-11/750

Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: Hi all -- Curious if anyone has a spare L0022 memory controller, this allows a VAX-11/750 to address up to a whopping 14mb of memory (2x4mb, 6x 1mb boards). I found a couple of the 4mb boards, now I just need to upgrade the memory controller to be able to use them

ISO: L0022 memory controller for VAX-11/750

Hi all -- Curious if anyone has a spare L0022 memory controller, this allows a VAX-11/750 to address up to a whopping 14mb of memory (2x4mb, 6x 1mb boards). I found a couple of the 4mb boards, now I just need to upgrade the memory controller to be able to use them... Thanks as always, Josh

Re: Random musing: VCB02 on VAX-11/750

On Sun, 28 May 2017, allison via cctalk wrote: > > I have a VAX-11/750, an Able QNiverter (UNIBUS->Qbus adapter), a > > 22-bit Qbus backplane, and a VCB02 (QDSS) 4-bit graphics boardset. > > > > Theory: With an appropriately modified NetBSD driver for the VCB02, > &

Re: Random musing: VCB02 on VAX-11/750

On 05/27/2017 09:15 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > So I had a random thought in the wee hours this morning and I leave it > to you, the cctalk braintrust, to tell me exactly how stupid this idea > is: > > I have a VAX-11/750, an Able QNiverter (UNIBUS->Qbus adapter), a >

Re: Random musing: VCB02 on VAX-11/750

On 5/27/2017 6:15 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: What say you all? - Josh The biggest possible train wreck if I see what you are up to, is if there are any test and set spin locks for semaphores and the like in the code. I know Sun had huge numbers of tricks on Sparc to run different

Re: Random musing: VCB02 on VAX-11/750

urs this morning and I leave it > to you, the cctalk braintrust, to tell me exactly how stupid this idea > is: > > I have a VAX-11/750, an Able QNiverter (UNIBUS->Qbus adapter), a > 22-bit Qbus backplane, and a VCB02 (QDSS) 4-bit graphics boardset. > > Theory: With an appropria

Random musing: VCB02 on VAX-11/750

So I had a random thought in the wee hours this morning and I leave it to you, the cctalk braintrust, to tell me exactly how stupid this idea is: I have a VAX-11/750, an Able QNiverter (UNIBUS->Qbus adapter), a 22-bit Qbus backplane, and a VCB02 (QDSS) 4-bit graphics boardset. The

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

in running the registry, but maybe he can pass the mantle onto someone else... - Josh On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> wrote: On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing wh

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

ee C. > > On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> > wrote: > >>> On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: >>> >>> Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't >>> mind knowing who else o

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

6 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: >>> >>> Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't >>> mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you >>> are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). >>> &

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

I have a vague recollection of this - have you reached out to Alan to determine current status? Lee C. On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> wrote: > On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: > >> Is there any interest in starting a VAX-1

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). alan Since I've heard of a few 11/750's having

Re: 4.2BSD TU58 distribution tape for VAX-11/750?

Oh... I guess that will be equally good for my 11/730 :-) On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 4/23/16 11:47 PM, Jonathan Katz wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Josh Dersch wrote: >> >>> Hey all -- >>> >>> I can't seem to

Re: 4.2BSD TU58 distribution tape for VAX-11/750?

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Josh Dersch wrote: > Hey all -- > > I can't seem to track down a copy of this TU58 on the 'net -- anyone have > one squirreled away somewhere, or know where I should be looking? >

4.2BSD TU58 distribution tape for VAX-11/750?

Hey all -- I'm researching what I need to have on hand to get 4.2BSD installed running on my 11/750. I'm pretty close to having mass storage working, I have a SCSI TMSCP tape controller that should do the job in conjunction with a SCSI 9-track drive, and the VAX itself seems to be happy.

Re: Resolved: VAX-11/750 ECKAL (Cache/TB) Diagnostic failure

And to reply to my own mail: The issue was an improperly installed TU80 controller (it wasn't me!). The NPG jumper was not removed from the backplane when the card was installed. So: Double-check your grants, even when testing something seemingly unrelated, like your cache. Lesson

Resolved: VAX-11/750 ECKAL (Cache/TB) Diagnostic failure

Hey all -- I resolved the weird failure I was seeing on my 11/750 with the Cache/TB diagnostic and since it was fairly random I thought I'd share it to save people from the future (hi, people from the future!) from going through the same machinations I did. Issue: ECKAL diagnostic loads,

ISO: VAX 11/750 RDM (L0006) and/or ECKAL diagnostic listing

Hey all -- Finally got the power supplies in my 11/750 humming again (after numerous failures) and generally things are looking good -- it passes microverify (I get the '%%' output at power-up) and most diagnostics (that I can run without an RDM) are passing. The ECKAL (Cache/TB) Diagnostic is

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

On Feb 4, 2016 01:30, "Mark J. Blair" wrote: > > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 20:37, Lee Courtney wrote: > > > > Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( > > Where do you see that? The listing states: > > "Status: Open 2/1/16 -

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

Josh, Where are you located? I might have a Vax-11/750 up for sale. Unfortunately, I did have to pay real money for it, so I am looking for $500. I am located near Calgary Alberta Canada. I can let you know additional details if you are interested. --barrym On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:41 PM

ISO: VAX-11/750

So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me know. I have DEC and various other gear for trade. Thanks as always! -

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

> On Feb 3, 2016, at 20:37, Lee Courtney wrote: > > Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( Where do you see that? The listing states: "Status: Open 2/1/16 - 02/07/16 23:59:00" -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

> On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: > > So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd > like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for > sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( Lee C. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 2/3/16 7:58 PM, Raymond Wiker wrote: > >> On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: >>> >>> So, I figure it's

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). alan On 7/4/15 1:40 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-04 4:35 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: Well. Despite all recent VAX-11/750 bashing

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

What control store does it have? I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Are you asking for the microcode revision? That would also apply to pretty much all VAXes. Probably referring to the L0005 CPU Control Store vs. L0008 Patchable Control Store. There's also a few types of L0008

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

Alan Perry [ape...@snowmoose.com] wrote: ... I was going to include a lot of 11/750-specific fields. Does it have a Unibus expansion cabinet? That would apply to all 7xx VAXes, as well as many of the 8xxx family. I don't think any others had a UBA option, but I could easily be wrong. What

OT: captcha (was: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) )

On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Fred Cisin ci...@xenosoft.com wrote: Isn't third world labor cheap enough to out-source Captcha answering in bulk? Only if someone has a failure of imagination. Here’s the way the third-world interface on that application will probably look: “Exercises in applied

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Jay West jw...@classiccmp.org wrote: One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful) then it's gonna become a target for SPAM. Captcha? And if you add a simple question

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Jay West jw...@classiccmp.org wrote: One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful) then it's gonna become a target for SPAM. Captcha? Isn'y third world labor cheap

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

I don't have any firm data, but I suspect it's way beyond that. Only among the people I know personally, and clubs, I'll probably be able to count around 20 (if not more). And that is a very small circle of people compared to the whole world. Yes, the true number may be well beyond 1000. Just

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

This may be hosted on the classiccmp server if you wish. There are already plans afoot for a registry there that would include both public and private listings, as well as measures to ensure entries that are desired to be anonymous (but verified) can be presented as well. The initial idea was for

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all makes and models. Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done. Any volunteers ??? :-) One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact information (and it seems like it would need to in

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

Gotta give Rob credit for at least throwing something out there ... what approach would you take? Best, Sean On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On 2015-07-09 1:20 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote: But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful) then it's gonna become a target for SPAM. Captcha? J

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done. Any ^ Chilling words. Are you TRYING to get Jay to withdraw his offer of hosting? Hah. The classiccmp server is LAMP... so none of the above is a

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-09 1:20 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote: But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all makes and models. Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done. Any ^ Chilling words.

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

that would be a lot more work, wouldn't it? alan On 7/6/15 11:52 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: will this include micro vax also? Ed# In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ape...@snowmoose.com writes: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750

Re: FW: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-08 19:21, Robert Armstrong wrote: Perhaps SDI is a typo for SBI, as in the 11/780? Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the fingers are faster than the brain :-) Synchronous Backplane Interconnect - the system bus used on the 78x and some of the 8000 machines. The 8600 and 8650 are

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

, Jul 06, 2015 at 08:03:12PM -0700, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). alan On 7/4/15 1:40 PM, Toby Thain wrote

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-09 5:28 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-07-09 09:29, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Sorry for top-posting but having read this thread I feel you are discriminating for no real reason. Certainly, if the registry is a plain old text file with one maintainer then some limitations is

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-09 15:13, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-09 5:28 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-07-09 09:29, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Sorry for top-posting but having read this thread I feel you are discriminating for no real reason. Certainly, if the registry is a plain old text file with one

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC server case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 full-height drives.

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On Jul 8, 2015, at 08:34, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: Plus I'm guessing (admittedly) that the Really Big VAX racks don't have castors either? The VAX-11/780 has casters. Back in college, a friend and I pushed a decommissioned 11/780 out of the computer room and into our

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC server case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 full-height drives. Plus I'm guessing

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC server case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin Sent: 08 July 2015 15:47 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

Oh yes they did! And screw down feet. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=VAX#/media/File:SPEC-1_VAX_05.jpg On 8 July 2015 at 16:34, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Toby Thain Sent: 08 July 2015 16:34 To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) On 2015-07-08

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 7/8/15 12:59 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron sca...@umich.edu wrote: I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no automatic lift. They easily turn a

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 7/6/15 8:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry ape...@snowmoose.com wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron sca...@umich.edu wrote: I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could require two, three or even

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