Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > There were two VT220 designs (I think), using either an onboard or > offboard flyback. The part number of the onboard flyback is 16-26299-01, > and there are some available on eBay if you are feeling rich. > I don't want to hijack Rob's thread too much :-) I actually have one of each design

RE: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
osts' ; 'Mattis > Lind' > Subject: RE: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video > > It is not my design, Tony Duell sent it to me and I think he got it from a > magazine many years ago. I will try to find it. > > Regards > > Rob > > > -Original Message- > >

RE: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
n-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ; 'Mattis > Lind' > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video > > On 2020-04-18 11:09 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I checked Q6 (in circuit), it is not shorted. I have already checked all the > electrolytic capacitors for a bad ESR

Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
arning to design a pwm flyback controller which is more or less the same thing in principle? --Toby > > > Regards > > > > Rob > > > > From: Mattis Lind > Sent: 18 April 2020 13:31 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; General > Discussion: On-T

RE: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I don't have an LCR meter but I think it might be a good idea to get one. Regards Rob > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Aaron Jackson via > cctalk > Sent: 18 April 2020 15:13 > To: Peter Coghlan ; General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts >

RE: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
circuit some years ago). I don’t think you can do ring tests in circuit can you? Regards Rob From: Mattis Lind Sent: 18 April 2020 13:31 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video Den

RE: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan via > cctalk > Sent: 18 April 2020 12:57 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video > > > > > Some of you may recall seeing me p

Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
> > > One approach to testing flyback transformers seems to be to use a circuit > that causes them to ring and observing whether the ringing is damped by > shorted turns. I've never got around to trying this myself. > > I have a VT100 that failed with some smoke coming out of the center of the

Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
>> 1. If the EHT lead was not properly connected to the CRT anode, could >> that cause problems? > > Possibly. I have VT220 terminal which was making a smell of ozone when it was > running which I should have done something about but never got around to. > This could have been due to corona

Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den lör 18 apr. 2020 kl 13:26 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > Some of you may recall seeing me post about the VAXmate PSU failure. Thanks > to members of this list I found the failed part in the PSU and the PSU is > now working again. However, it looks like

Re: VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > Some of you may recall seeing me post about the VAXmate PSU failure. Thanks > to members of this list I found the failed part in the PSU and the PSU is > now working again. However, it looks like the PSU failed because of a > failure on the monitor board. There is a burning sm

VAXmate PSU fixed, but no video

2020-04-18 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Some of you may recall seeing me post about the VAXmate PSU failure. Thanks to members of this list I found the failed part in the PSU and the PSU is now working again. However, it looks like the PSU failed because of a failure on the monitor board. There is a burning smell coming from

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-16 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:14 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > D12 is an MBR3045PT. It tests correctly as a common cathode diode network. > However, the forward voltage seems to be 0.19V. The datasheet ( >

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-16 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > Thanks Eric, I had a private reply that said pretty much the same thing. > > > > Last night I replaced the shorted diode and another electrolytic capacitor > and the PSU started up on the bench, powering a load board and an RD53 hard > disk. Ripple was good

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-16 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
:05 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:14 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: D12 is an MBR3045PT. It tests correctly as a common cathode diode network. H

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-10 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Lind Sent: 10 April 2020 15:16 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ; Matt Burke Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU I have found the problem and a possible other problem too. But that is great! I have discovered that D24 is shorted (no visible damage

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-10 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
> > > I have found the problem and a possible other problem too. > But that is great! > > I have discovered that D24 is shorted (no visible damage), although its > twin D23 is not. I will replace both. I know it is shorted because I lifted > one end. > Well, sometime there are no visible damage

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-10 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Rob Jarratt > Sent: 09 April 2020 20:34 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'Rob Jarratt' ; 'General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' ; 'Matt > Burke' ; 'Mattis Lind' > Subject: RE: VAXmate PSU > > > -Original Message---

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-09 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt via > cctalk > Sent: 09 April 2020 19:52 > To: 'Matt Burke' ; 'Mattis Lind' ; > 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: VAXmate PSU > > > > > -Original Mess

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-09 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Matt Burke via > cctalk > Sent: 09 April 2020 09:40 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU > > On 08/04/2020 22:24, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I will look at all the suggesti

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-09 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 08/04/2020 22:24, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > I will look at all the suggestions, particularly of a failure on the > secondary side. Something must have burned up, because there was a distinct > burning smell after the initial failure, although I have never been able to > see any

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-09 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
: VAXmate PSU torsdag 9 april 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt mailto:robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com> >: I did use a faster timebase, 10us, triggering on the negative edge of channel 2, and it looked identical to this: https://rjarratt.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/primary-side-shutdown-detail-2.png

VAXmate PSU

2020-04-09 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
annel 2 negative slope. > > > > /Mattis > > > > Thanks > > > > Rob > > > > *From:* Mattis Lind > *Sent:* 08 April 2020 07:42 > *To:* r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; > General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > *Subject:* Re: VAXma

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-09 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
in, but there was no difference, the result was identical. Regards Rob From: Mattis Lind Sent: 09 April 2020 05:52 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ; Rob Jarratt Subject: VAXmate PSU onsdag 8 april 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt mailto:robert.jarr

VAXmate PSU

2020-04-08 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
arratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; > General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > *Subject:* Re: VAXmate PSU > > > > > > > > Den ons 8 apr. 2020 kl 00:34 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > > > > > -Original Message- >

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-08 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU Den ons 8 apr. 2020 kl 00:34 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> >: > -Original Message- > From: cctalk <mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> > On Behalf

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-08 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den ons 8 apr. 2020 kl 00:34 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Brent Hilpert > via > > cctalk > > Sent: 06 April 2020 21:07 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic an

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-08 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Matt Burke via > cctalk > Sent: 08 April 2020 01:25 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU > > On 07/04/2020 23:34, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I have seen the suggestions to study

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-07 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 07/04/2020 23:34, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > I have seen the suggestions to study the waveforms at a much higher > resolution. What I am doing is setting the overall timebase in the 100ms > range so that I can trigger on when the 555 starts to oscillate and capture > the whole period of

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-07 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Brent Hilpert via > cctalk > Sent: 06 April 2020 21:07 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU > > On 2020-Apr-05, at 11:12 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > >> &g

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-06 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Apr-05, at 11:12 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: >> >>> I have obtained a scope trace as you suggest. R32 is still lifted so >>> the >>> UC3842 is powered by the bench PSU, but I am using the full 240VAC (no >>> variac). The channels are: >>> 1. Ch1. 555 timer. >>> 2. Ch2. D19 Anode >>> 3. Ch3.

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-06 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
iscussion: > On-Topic > > and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU > > > > > > Switching power supplies are, to coin a phrase, voltage/current-ratio > power > > translators. > > They will attempt to adjust the (cycle-averaged) input-current

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> I would agree that a check for shorts in the output stages can be of interest. > Possibly disconnect one output stage at a time and see if that make a > difference. > > I like this idea, I will have to see how best to do that. Regards Rob

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Brent Hilpert > Sent: 06 April 2020 00:12 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU > > On 2020-Apr-05, at 2:53 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > I have obtained a s

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-05 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den sön 5 apr. 2020 kl 22:18 skrev Brent Hilpert via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > On 2020-Apr-05, at 6:05 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I found time to follow Mattis’s suggestion today and I got some > interesting results. > > > > I powered the UC3842 with about 16V from a bench

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-05 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Apr-05, at 2:53 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > I have obtained a scope trace as you suggest. R32 is still lifted so the > UC3842 is powered by the bench PSU, but I am using the full 240VAC (no > variac). The channels are: > 1.Ch1. 555 timer. > 2.Ch2. D19 Anode > 3.Ch3. D19 Gate. > 4.

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-05 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Brent Hilpert via > cctalk > Sent: 05 April 2020 21:18 > To: Rob Jarratt ; General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU > > > Switching power supplies are, to coin a phras

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-05 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Apr-05, at 6:05 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > I found time to follow Mattis’s suggestion today and I got some interesting > results. > > I powered the UC3842 with about 16V from a bench power supply. I lifted R32 > so that the transformer would not supply it. I then used an

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-04-05 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: VAXmate PSU Thanks, I do have an isolating transformer as well, so I will use that. I have done previous tests with a bench PSU on the UC3842 and found it needs 16V to get going. I just checked the Technical Description and it says

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: Thanks Mattis. I do test it with a load, although to be honest I forgot to do this when I took the measurements yesterday. I use a modern-ish IDE disk and a load board from a MicroVAX 2000 as the dummy load. I don’t know if that is sufficient.

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Matt Burke via > cctalk > Sent: 29 March 2020 10:41 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU > > On 29/03/2020 08:50, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > Hello Rob, > > >

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
point me at? One of the things I have tried to do, but clearly not very successfully, is to minimise the lengths of the wires. Regards Rob From: Mattis Lind Sent: 29 March 2020 08:51 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 29/03/2020 08:50, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > Hello Rob, > > söndag 29 mars 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt : > >> Thanks Mattis. I do test it with a load, although to be honest I forgot to >> do this when I took the measurements yesterday. I use a modern-ish IDE disk >> and a load board from a

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
gt; > *From:* Mattis Lind > *Sent:* 29 March 2020 06:39 > *To:* r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; > General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > *Subject:* Re: VAXmate PSU > > > > Hello Rob, > > lördag 28 mars 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk : > > I

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU Hello Rob, lördag 28 mars 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> >: I have posted here a couple of times because I have a failed VAXmate PSU. I have just

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-28 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Hello Rob, lördag 28 mars 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk : > I have posted here a couple of times because I have a failed VAXmate PSU. I > have just posted a little bit more information here: > https://robs-old-computers.com/2020/03/28/further- > analysis-of-the-vaxmate-h7 >

VAXmate PSU

2020-03-28 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I have posted here a couple of times because I have a failed VAXmate PSU. I have just posted a little bit more information here: https://robs-old-computers.com/2020/03/28/further-analysis-of-the-vaxmate-h7 270-psu-failure/ with some scope traces and a greatly improved schematic. Although

RE: VAXmate PSU Failure

2020-02-15 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> The UC3842 datasheet does show you can draw up to 20 mA from the Vref pin, > which should certainly power up a 555. But, this is a 5 V regulator, and may > not be working properly. it may be that driving several mA to the 555, E2 and > other components has cooked it over time. With the 555

Re: VAXmate PSU Failure

2020-02-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/15/2020 12:17 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: A little while back I posted here because I needed help with analysing the failure of the PSU from my VAXmate. Since then I have had some comments on the reverse engineered schematic which I have now improved and which is here:

VAXmate PSU Failure

2020-02-15 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
A little while back I posted here because I needed help with analysing the failure of the PSU from my VAXmate. Since then I have had some comments on the reverse engineered schematic which I have now improved and which is here: