Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-25 Thread Scott Quinn via cctalk
On Fri, 2021-09-24 at 12:00 -0500, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: > > supported by any release licensed by VSI, and they changed the > > PRODUCER > > key so you can't use those PAKs on DEC/CPQ/HP variants of VMS. > > Part of their licensing agreement with HPE which prohibits them from >

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 9/23/2021 8:12 AM, Scott Quinn via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 2021-09-22 at 12:00 -0500, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: Currently the Hobbyist Program covers Alpha and Itanium.  We?ve been told it will cover x86 at some point.  I for one can?t wait for x86, as I don?t really want to add an

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 9/22/2021 7:21 AM, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote: Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help! I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a cross compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My goal is to get the source

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 23/09/2021 14:23, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Scott Quinn via cctalk wrote: ... Isn't VMS DCL pretty close to RSX? Never used RSX, but that is what I was always told. I don't know how close it is to RSX, but I do know that RSTS (V9 and later) DCL was

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Scott Quinn via cctalk > wrote: > ... > Isn't VMS DCL pretty close to RSX? Never used RSX, but that is what I > was always told. I don't know how close it is to RSX, but I do know that RSTS (V9 and later) DCL was explicitly modeled on VMS DCL, including the

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread Scott Quinn via cctalk
On Wed, 2021-09-22 at 12:00 -0500, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: > Currently the Hobbyist Program covers Alpha and Itanium.  We?ve been > told it will cover x86 at some point.  I for one can?t wait for x86, > as I don?t really want to add an Itanium to run some of the newer > software. > >

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 18:28, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Not true. HP still owns it. VSI is licensed to continue development, > nothing more. HPE no longer cares about VMS and the Hobbyist Program > has ended. VSI has a Hobbyist type program but it does not cover VAX. I sit

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Antonio Carlini wrote: > On 22/09/2021 17:05, Zane Healy wrote: >> >> Interesting, I have 3 34GB drives in my cluster, and haven’t had any issue. > > > I think I was running OpenVMS VAX V7.2 on SIMH. IIRC it was fixed in V7.3 > (someone sent me the DECUS Hobbyist

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 22/09/2021 17:05, Zane Healy wrote: Interesting, I have 3 34GB drives in my cluster, and haven’t had any issue. I think I was running OpenVMS VAX V7.2 on SIMH. IIRC it was fixed in V7.3 (someone sent me the DECUS Hobbyist V7.3 release and that was OK). Antonio -- Antonio Carlini

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Not true. HP still owns it. VSI is licensed to continue development, nothing > more. HPE no longer cares about VMS and the Hobbyist Program > has ended. VSI has a Hobbyist type program but it does not cover VAX. > >>

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Sep 22, 2021, at 5:21 AM, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > > Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help! > > I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a cross > compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My goal is to

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 9/22/21 8:44 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 14:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote: I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available. I like VMS but I can't claim much expertise, unfortunately. I have sysadminned a few boxes, but never

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Sep 22, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > Might be faster to install on a speedy machine though (I've never tried on > any Pi but I doubt that any of them will match a Ryzen …) I tend to use VM’s on my VMware cluster. I’ve used an RPI 3b+, it was about 1.6 VUPS, so

RE: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Philip > Pemberton via cctalk > Sent: 22 September 2021 13:22 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Setting up a VMS system > > Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help! > > I'm on a b

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Find a working vms system and back up the drives to your externally-attached drive (s) to clone them. Migrate the cloned drives to your system. This is a simplified statement of what's really involved but if you can get to a similar system to your dec whatever you have, I'd attempt the clone

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 22/09/2021 13:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote: Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help! I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a cross compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My goal is to get the source

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Peter Hicks via cctalk
Hi Phil I'm not sure if it helps, but I documented installing OpenVMS on a Raspberry Pi a while ago at https://blog.poggs.com/2020/04/21/openvms-on-a-raspberry-pi/ Peter On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 13:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hopefully a few of the

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 14:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available. I like VMS but I can't claim much expertise, unfortunately. I have sysadminned a few boxes, but never brought one up from scratch. However I did

Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Philip Pemberton via cctalk
Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help! I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a cross compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My goal is to get the source code building and experiment with the compiler a bit.