[Cdk-user] valency of atoms question

2010-10-06 Thread Nick Vandewiele
Hey, I have a question regarding the valency property of Atom. Consider this example in which methyl radical is constructed with a SingleElectron at the carbon position. Then a hydrogen is added, bonded to the carbon, the SingleElectron is removed, making the methylradical a methane

Re: [Cdk-user] Murcko Framework / aromaticity

2010-10-06 Thread Pascal Muller
Hi, If I remember correctly the Murcko framework code in the CDK is broken. I would be *very* useful if the people interested in this functionality could set up (e.g. in the wiki) a set if molecules with the expected murcko hits for those molecules... Done:

Re: [Cdk-user] check whether a bond is in a ring

2010-10-06 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Rajarshi Guha rajarshi.g...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, what is the preferred way to check whether a bond is in a ring? The SpanningTree. Egon -- Dr E.L. Willighagen Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw Blog:

Re: [Cdk-user] Murcko Framework / aromaticity

2010-10-06 Thread Rajarshi Guha
Hi, I've been debugging some of my code and I could you determine how many frameworks should be identified from C1(c2c2)(CC(CC1)CCc1c1)CC1C=CC=C1 I know that that the 6-ring and 5-ring joined by a single bond (zero atom linker) correspond to 2 separate ring systems, but would the

Re: [Cdk-user] Murcko Framework / aromaticity

2010-10-06 Thread Rajarshi Guha
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, gilleain torrance gilleain.torra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This isn't really relevant to fragments as defined in the Murko paper, but it could be interesting to fragment ring systems and linkers in other ways. Say we label the rings as A-D. Then you're asking

Re: [Cdk-user] Murcko Framework / aromaticity

2010-10-06 Thread gilleain torrance
Given that a framework is a combination of ring systems and linkers, I there are quite a few frameworks - (ABCD), (AB) (ABC) (ABD) (CBD) Hah. Right. Guess I should have actually read, and not just skimmed, the paper :) gilleain

Re: [Cdk-user] check whether a bond is in a ring

2010-10-06 Thread Rajarshi Guha
OK - but then should I go via getCyclicFragmentsContainer()? Or via the getAllRings()? On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Egon Willighagen egon.willigha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Rajarshi Guha rajarshi.g...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, what is the preferred way to check whether a

Re: [Cdk-user] Murcko Framework / aromaticity

2010-10-06 Thread Rajarshi Guha
Hi, looking at some of your examples, I came across ZINC00051216 The full molecule is CCC(=O)c...@](c1c1)(C(F)(F)F)O and you note the framework (non-hetero) as c1c1 But according to the paper referenced, a framework must be a combination of ring system + linkers, which this does not

Re: [Cdk-user] Murcko Framework / aromaticity

2010-10-06 Thread Rajarshi Guha
Another example: You have c1cc(ccc1C(=O)Nc2ccc3c(c2)nc(o3)c4ccncc4)F ZINC00037772 Visually this should have 3 frameworks - but you list one. It seems that all combinations of ring systems and linkers are valid frameworks - or maybe I have misunderstood. Could you explain how you arrived at