Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Matthias Andree
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My DVD needs get served well by original growisofs and cdrecord-ProDVD. So i have not much reason to try any DVD-patched cdrecords yet. I actually wonder why they live forth. Some people appear to prefer one tool for one burning needs, without locking themselves in

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread scdbackup
Hi, So i have not much reason to try any DVD-patched cdrecords yet. I actually wonder why they live forth. I wondered too and questioned that, and got my head bitten off on the dvdrtools list Only good we are virtual entities here. The blood spill would be immense if we met in real

Re: dvd+rw-tools update [6.0, DVD-R DL]

2006-01-21 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as you still have to pull a lot of data from disk, you still put quite a pressure on VM subsystem, so direct I/O can still help, But how to talk afio, star or mkisofs into that ? I was thinking that a simple wrapper to open()

Re: dvd+rw-tools update [6.0, DVD-R DL]

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i nearly gave up the hope to see more growisofs releases. The release of version 6.0 is good news. dvd+rw-tools 6.0 are available for download at usual location, http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/. In addition to bug fixes [most notably for Pioneer

Re: dvd+rw-tools update [6.0, DVD-R DL]

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How come that the time granularity of the backup processing chain does not get finer as the systems get faster ? What do you understand by time granularity? I see a fifo as a method to smoothen out peaks and gaps in a input function and to bring

Re: dvd+rw-tools update [6.0, DVD-R DL]

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
Patrick Ohly wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as you still have to pull a lot of data from disk, you still put quite a pressure on VM subsystem, so direct I/O can still help, But how to talk afio, star or mkisofs into that ? I was thinking

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joerg Schilling wrote: Thaddeus H. Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This post regards Debian cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c. It may be old news to you. If so, ignore it; no reply is needed. If it does interest you, however, please copy replies to me. Be careful: Debian publishes a

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Because growisofs doesn't do CD, cdrecord doesn't do DVD, and -ProDVD isn't open source. I find it very nice to have a single tool to burn ISO images, because then I can write the media type fitted to the data size without needing multiple tools. That's why I have used my writecd script

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread scdbackup
Hi, Bill Davidsen wrote: Because growisofs doesn't do CD, cdrecord doesn't do DVD, and -ProDVD isn't open source. I find it very nice to have a single tool to burn ISO images, because then I can write the media type fitted to the data size without needing multiple tools. Volker

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread scdbackup
Hi, I recently introduced a fifo into my growisofs script. Now it is already obsolete. What a carreer. :)) For a talk I gave on introduction to pthreads I wrote a ring buffer program with most of the options one could want. Isn't there anybody in the world who did not make his own fifo

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful: Debian publishes a bastardized version of cdrtools. Most problems go away once you convert to the official programs. There seems to be no open source official program. Looks like you missunderstood OpenSource and forks. Even for Open

Re: dvd+rw-tools update [6.0, DVD-R DL]

2006-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking that a simple wrapper to open() which adds O_DIRECT might be sufficient, but it turned out that this alone is not sufficient: the buffers used by the programs must have a certain alignment. This is not guaranteed without modifying the way

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't open source. I find it very nice to have a single tool to burn ISO images, because then I can write the media type fitted to the data size without needing multiple tools. This is why I use cdrecord wherever possible. And just a note: growisofs

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would there be volunteer testers for a united cdrecord compatibility wrapper based on libburn for CD and growisofs for DVD ? (With the funny property to have TAO-like behavior for DVD and only SAO for CD. Libburn is only available for x86 Linux 2.4 and 2.6 afaik.)

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I recently introduced a fifo into my growisofs script. Now it is already obsolete. What a carreer. :)) For a talk I gave on introduction to pthreads I wrote a ring buffer program with most of the options one could want. Isn't there anybody in the

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 11:35:25PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There seems to be no open source official program. Looks like you missunderstood OpenSource and forks. Even for Open Source, there is an Author or a group of authors. The version that comes

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And in case you also missunderstood forks: A fork is a _working_ and _maintained_ modified version of a program. What you see with the bastardized cdrtools versions on Linux is neither working nor maintained, it is just a result of the religion of

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 12:14:55AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And in case you also missunderstood forks: A fork is a _working_ and _maintained_ modified version of a program. What you see with the bastardized cdrtools versions on Linux is neither

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread scdbackup
Hi Joerg, Would there be volunteer testers for a united cdrecord compatibility wrapper based on libburn for CD and growisofs for DVD ? The last time I checked libburn, it was a complete desater. The first time where a project turned unmaintainable short after it's creation. It's not

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 21 January 2006 19:06, Steve McIntyre wrote: [...] -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, FFS. Give it a rest, Joerg. Most of the work that the various Linux distro people have done on cdrtools is to fix real bugs that you won't acknowledge. Sometimes users simply want things to work on their systems, rather than random Solaris

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me take the occasion to show to you the due politeness and respect by informing you in advance about my upcoming cdrecord compatibility wrapper around libburn: cdrskin . What kind of advantage should this have? Cdrecord is opensource and portable to 30

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 01:38:19AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please tell me why an unmodified cdrecord runs best on Linux and why 90% of all bugs on the Debian bug tracking system for cdrtools are caused by the modifications done by Debian.

Re: dvd+rw-tools update [6.0, DVD-R DL]

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking that a simple wrapper to open() which adds O_DIRECT might be sufficient, but it turned out that this alone is not sufficient: the buffers used by the programs must have a certain alignment. This is not guaranteed

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful: Debian publishes a bastardized version of cdrtools. Most problems go away once you convert to the official programs. There seems to be no open source official program. Looks like you missunderstood

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joerg Schilling wrote: Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And in case you also missunderstood forks: A fork is a _working_ and _maintained_ modified version of a program. What you see with the bastardized cdrtools versions on Linux is neither working nor maintained, it is just a

Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joerg Schilling wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me take the occasion to show to you the due politeness and respect by informing you in advance about my upcoming cdrecord compatibility wrapper around libburn: cdrskin . What kind of advantage should this have? Cdrecord is