Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware 1.05

2004-03-07 Thread F. Poncin
Fyi, with new Firmware 1.0.5 Version with dinfo[32+4] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]# ./testf /dev/scd2 00 20 1e 01 01 01 01 01 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Version with dinfo[32] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]#

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware1.05

2004-03-07 Thread Andy Polyakov
Fyi, with new Firmware 1.0.5 ... Version with dinfo[32] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]# ./testfno4 /dev/scd2 00 20 1e 01 01 01 01 01 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ^^ looking good. There was one more thing that was brought to Plextor attention (see

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware 1.05

2004-03-07 Thread F. Poncin
Joerg Schilling wrote: From: F. Poncin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fyi, with new Firmware 1.0.5 Version with dinfo[32+4] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]# ./testf /dev/scd2 00 20 1e 01 01 01 01 01 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware 1.05

2004-03-07 Thread Geoffrey
F. Poncin wrote: Would you please turn off the receipt requests on your email F. Poncin, you should NEVER post to a list with such a request. -- Until later, Geoffrey Registered Linux User #108567 Building secure systems inspite of Microsoft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware 1.05

2004-03-07 Thread F. Poncin
Fyi, with new Firmware 1.0.5 Version with dinfo[32+4] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]# ./testf /dev/scd2 00 20 1e 01 01 01 01 01 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Version with dinfo[32] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]#

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware1.05

2004-03-07 Thread Andy Polyakov
Fyi, with new Firmware 1.0.5 ... Version with dinfo[32] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]# ./testfno4 /dev/scd2 00 20 1e 01 01 01 01 01 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ^^ looking good. There was one more thing that was brought to Plextor attention (see

Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware 1.05

2004-03-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: F. Poncin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fyi, with new Firmware 1.0.5 Version with dinfo[32+4] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]# ./testf /dev/scd2 00 20 1e 01 01 01 01 01 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Version with dinfo[32] [EMAIL

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware1.05

2004-03-07 Thread F. Poncin
Andy Polyakov wrote: Fyi, with new Firmware 1.0.5 ... Version with dinfo[32] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]# ./testfno4 /dev/scd2 00 20 1e 01 01 01 01 01 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ^^ looking good. There was one more thing that was brought to Plextor

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type - test with firmware 1.05

2004-03-07 Thread F. Poncin
Joerg Schilling wrote: From: F. Poncin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fyi, with new Firmware 1.0.5 Version with dinfo[32+4] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.17.4.8.6]# ./testf /dev/scd2 00 20 1e 01 01 01 01 01 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
Version with dinfo[32+4] == [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.16.4.8.5]$ ./test /dev/scd0 :-( unable to READ DISK INFORMATION: Input/output error == The above program uses READ DISK INFORMATION with length parameter used by cdrecord. Version with dinfo[32]

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
Have you dealt with anyone at Plextor that I might try to explain this to? No, I have no contact with Plextor. I considered 708 unit when it was initially released, as they mentioned DVD+MRW support in specification sheet. But they couldn't clarify what does it really mean in practice [well,

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-05 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
Andy, what that last error meant is that I was specifying the device the wrong way (it is /dev/scd0 for me). Anyway, here is the actual result: Version with dinfo[32+4] == [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.16.4.8.5]$ ./test /dev/scd0 :-( unable to READ DISK INFORMATION: Input/output

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
Version with dinfo[32+4] == [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.16.4.8.5]$ ./test /dev/scd0 :-( unable to READ DISK INFORMATION: Input/output error == The above program uses READ DISK INFORMATION with length parameter used by cdrecord. Version with dinfo[32]

RE: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-05 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
, 2004 12:13 PM To: Thomas J Magliery PhD Cc: cdwrite@other.debian.org Subject: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type Version with dinfo[32+4] == [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.16.4.8.5]$ ./test /dev/scd0 :-( unable to READ DISK INFORMATION: Input/output error

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-05 Thread Andy Polyakov
Have you dealt with anyone at Plextor that I might try to explain this to? No, I have no contact with Plextor. I considered 708 unit when it was initially released, as they mentioned DVD+MRW support in specification sheet. But they couldn't clarify what does it really mean in practice [well,

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-02-04 Thread Rob Bogus
Rob Bogus wrote: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open exclusive - see man open. After

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
Andy, sorry this took me so long. I did as you asked. I get the following message upon running *either* version of the program: :-( unable to READ DISK INFORMATION: Bad file descriptor What does this mean? Incidentally, I had a blank DVD+R in the drive. Is this what you wanted for this

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
Andy, what that last error meant is that I was specifying the device the wrong way (it is /dev/scd0 for me). Anyway, here is the actual result: Version with dinfo[32+4] == [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd+rw-tools-5.16.4.8.5]$ ./test /dev/scd0 :-( unable to READ DISK INFORMATION: Input/output

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-02-04 Thread Rob Bogus
Rob Bogus wrote: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open exclusive - see man open. After looking

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
Andy, sorry this took me so long. I did as you asked. I get the following message upon running *either* version of the program: :-( unable to READ DISK INFORMATION: Bad file descriptor What does this mean? Incidentally, I had a blank DVD+R in the drive. Is this what you wanted for this test?

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Ambrose Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just did run a test that verifies that the 708 in fact returns 36 bytes. So the problem is definitely caused by a Linux driver bug. I tend to believe that growisofs just does not check the SCSI status byte and for this reason is not aware of the

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-02-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jan 31 16:27:44 2004 The GUI is a user interface and should do for the user what the user wishes done. Having the volume management (and that term means something else in most contexts) in the GUI allows the user to control how the system will behave when a

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-02 Thread Andy Polyakov
I am sure that if growisofs would check all relevant information returned by the driver, it would fail too. Thomas! Could you run attached program with your /dev/dvd as argument? Then remove +4 from dinfo declaration, recompile and re-run. To compile save it in dvd+rw-tools source catalog and

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Ambrose Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just did run a test that verifies that the 708 in fact returns 36 bytes. So the problem is definitely caused by a Linux driver bug. I tend to believe that growisofs just does not check the SCSI status byte and for this reason is not aware of the

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-02-02 Thread Andy Polyakov
I am sure that if growisofs would check all relevant information returned by the driver, it would fail too. Thomas! Could you run attached program with your /dev/dvd as argument? Then remove +4 from dinfo declaration, recompile and re-run. To compile save it in dvd+rw-tools source catalog and

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-02-01 Thread Lourens Veen
On Sat 31 January 2004 22:46, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Lourens Veen wrote: On Tue 27 January 2004 11:16, Lourens Veen wrote: On Tue 27 January 2004 08:06, Lourens Veen wrote: Then there is autofs (http://freshmeat.net/projects/autofs/?topic_id=142, can't find a real homepage) and KDE uses fam

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote: Well, if you do it right, then then the automounter is the wrong place for this functionality: - The task os an automounter is to watch where you try to step in. If you step into some magic land, it opens a door for you. If you go out of the magic land, the

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open exclusive - see man open. -- E. Robert Bogusta It

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] NO, if you like to check for a media change you need to access the TOC. Thanks, but that's not what I was asking. What I want to know is, if I were writing a volume

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Lourens Veen
On Sat 31 January 2004 16:30, Rob Bogus wrote: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open exclusive - see man open. Yes, even better if the burning software

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Andy Polyakov
The burner software can open exclusive - see man open. You mean O_EXCL? That doesn't seem to make sense? You must be referring to the fact that O_EXCL is essentially undefined without O_CREAT. It's absolutely true, but it doesn't mean that it's not passed down to kernel, most notably when

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Lourens Veen
On Sat 31 January 2004 22:46, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] NO, if you like to check for a media change you need to access the TOC. Thanks, but that's not what I was asking. What I want to know is, if I were writing a volume

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Lourens Veen
On Sat 31 January 2004 16:30, Rob Bogus wrote: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-31 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
What I meant was those autothingies should keep their hands off a disk while a burn process is happening. Dunno whether it's possible to detect this, but isn't that the way it should be? The burner software can open exclusive - see man open. Yes, even better if the burning software

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-30 Thread Andy Polyakov
I just did run a test that verifies that the 708 in fact returns 36 bytes. So the problem is definitely caused by a Linux driver bug. I tend to believe that growisofs just does not check the SCSI status byte Quoting myself. Under Linux kernel 2.4 growisofs counts on sr_mod to check the

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-30 Thread Andy Polyakov
I just did run a test that verifies that the 708 in fact returns 36 bytes. So the problem is definitely caused by a Linux driver bug. I tend to believe that growisofs just does not check the SCSI status byte Quoting myself. Under Linux kernel 2.4 growisofs counts on sr_mod to check

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 02:15:00PM +0100, Andy Polyakov wrote: Sorry, you repeat useless statements :-( Does anybody else feel that way? Surely you've picked up by now that if you're not Joerg you must be wrong. By definition, I guess... :-( -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-30 Thread Len Sorensen
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:28:03AM -0500, Thomas J. Magliery, Ph.D. wrote: Well, I've played with this for way more than an hour already. Why not? The folks at linux-usb-devel (i.e., Alan Stern) also want me to recompile my linux kernel with usb-storage debugging on. So this could take a

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-30 Thread Ambrose Li
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:05:41PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: I just did run a test that verifies that the 708 in fact returns 36 bytes. So the problem is definitely caused by a Linux driver bug. I tend to believe that growisofs just does not check the SCSI status byte and for this

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-30 Thread Andy Polyakov
I just did run a test that verifies that the 708 in fact returns 36 bytes. So the problem is definitely caused by a Linux driver bug. I tend to believe that growisofs just does not check the SCSI status byte Quoting myself. Under Linux kernel 2.4 growisofs counts on sr_mod to check the

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 28 17:11:59 2004 Cdrecord does not squeeze the drive Did I say that cdrecord squeezes the drive? No! If I wanted to say Of course you did! You wrote that growisofs works in contrary to cdrecord besauce it does _not_ squeezes the drive. This meant that

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 28 21:01:50 2004 Is there any way at all to check whether a CD is being written without disturbing the writing process? NO, if you like to check for a media change you need to access the TOC. This is why accessing the drive for writing needs to suspend the

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-29 Thread Lourens Veen
On Thu 29 January 2004 12:34, Joerg Schilling wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 28 21:01:50 2004 Is there any way at all to check whether a CD is being written without disturbing the writing process? NO, if you like to check for a media change you need to access the TOC. Thanks, but

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Andy Polyakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does this answer mean that cdrecord fundamentally checks some data that is always going to give me an error, Let me re-phrase. Growisofs pulls DISC INFORMATION (that's what the command 0x51 in question does) in a way different from cdrecord, which I

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, I already said before I consider this matter closed, but someone doesn't want to get it. * * YOU ARE A SPAMMER because you use an illegal mail address * This is the most idiotic definition of spammer

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] NO, if you like to check for a media change you need to access the TOC. Thanks, but that's not what I was asking. What I want to know is, if I were writing a volume management system, and I wanted to make sure it didn't interfere with a write in

RE: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 29 17:28:18 2004 Would you be willing to do a test with Solaris? Get the Solaris CD images from: http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/get.html#x86 for free... installation is simple and takes less than one hour. If you start with CD 1

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 05:43:46PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Note that I always install Linux in an extedned partition because Linux likes to call a Solaris Partition a Linux Swap partition. Fortunately, it does not swap on it immediately if there is no Linux swap signature on it. That's

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-29 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tue 27 January 2004 11:16, Lourens Veen wrote: On Tue 27 January 2004 08:06, Lourens Veen wrote: Then there is autofs (http://freshmeat.net/projects/autofs/?topic_id=142, can't find a real homepage) and KDE uses fam (http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/), however I don't think fam

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 28 17:11:59 2004 Cdrecord does not squeeze the drive Did I say that cdrecord squeezes the drive? No! If I wanted to say Of course you did! You wrote that growisofs works in contrary to cdrecord besauce it does _not_ squeezes the drive. This meant that

Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Thomas J. Magliery, Ph.D.
Volker, I can burn DVD+Rs using growisofs, but I get the above error with cdrecord-ProDVD. I can smell a dead simple solution here... === The original problem I was trying to solve was to get xcdroast to work, which requires cdrecord-ProDVD to burn DVDs. I actually had thought of your

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
True, but having an automounter like autofs would be an easy way of implementing this, and it has the advantage that it'll also work from outside of the DE. Hm, true. Any distro actually using autofs though? SuSE isn't, don't know about others. Can one assume that people who use the command

Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
The original problem I was trying to solve was to get xcdroast to work, which requires cdrecord-ProDVD to burn DVDs. I hear k3b is better anyway? You could try a wrapper script which magles -prodvd arguments into something useful for growisofs, but I'm unable to help (no time). I assume Yes

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Andy Polyakov
-a broken drive. Again, since growisofs works, I doubt this, but perhaps cdrecord avails itself of some facility that growisofs ignores. Is this the case? In other words, WHY would growisofs either not have or not be stopped by this error, while cdrecord is? Recall that cdrecord is

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Andy Polyakov
cdrecord development was then suspended for a while, and Andy Polyakov made dvd+rw-tools (growisofs) which is mainly meant for DVD+ drives, and is open source under the GPL. cdrecord release schedule was never a driving force for dvd+rw-tools, it was availability of technology and personal

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Andy Polyakov
-a broken drive. Again, since growisofs works, I doubt this, but perhaps cdrecord avails itself of some facility that growisofs ignores. Is this the case? In other words, WHY would growisofs either not have or not be stopped by this error, while cdrecord is? Recall that cdrecord

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-28 Thread Lourens Veen
On Wed 28 January 2004 16:07, Joerg Schilling wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 27 21:08:37 2004 Aha, thanks for explaining that. This does pose a bit of a problem though if you have both: say I insert a CD, then the volume manager sees it and mounts it. Then I go to my magic

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 27 21:08:37 2004 Aha, thanks for explaining that. This does pose a bit of a problem though if you have both: say I insert a CD, then the volume manager sees it and mounts it. Then I go to my magic automounter directory and it tries to mount it too. Problem.

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * YOU ARE A SPAMMER because you use an illegal mail address * WHEN WILL YOU FINALLY follow the nettiquette? Note that because you don't follow usual agreements, I usually don't reply to your mails.

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] that cdrecord-ProDVD This is commercial binary-only software. Looks like you confuse binary with commercial. Or was dvdrecord just some Red Hat package of cdrecord-ProDVD? No. Various distributions shipped dvdrecord some while ago, because it

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Andy Polyakov
Does this answer mean that cdrecord fundamentally checks some data that is always going to give me an error, Let me re-phrase. Growisofs pulls DISC INFORMATION (that's what the command 0x51 in question does) in a way different from cdrecord, which I believe is/offer as the explanation for why

RE: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Thomas J. Magliery, Ph.D.
Did I say that cdrecord squeezes the drive? No! If I wanted to say that, I'd say Unlike cdrecord, growisofs... But I said nothing of that sort! I said that growisofs asks only for information I consider required for intended purpose in a colorful way. I was basically answering Thomas'

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-28 Thread Andy Polyakov
It seems that the Sun volume mamager performs a dummy mount for empty medium and remains quiet until you call eject cd. Upon CD/DVD media load Solaris volume manager arranges kind of bypass device entry under /vol and then invokes rmmount. Rmmount analyzes the media to identify the file system

Re: Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Thomas J. Magliery, Ph.D.
I assume Yes was the answer to have to do this by hand? Ugh. Correct, sorry. It's not possible to say in one sentence how to do this, and I don't know of any howto. Don't do it again... You could look at files with about the same timestamp and delete those after venturing a guess whether they

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-28 Thread Lourens Veen
On Wed 28 January 2004 00:28, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: or whatever. Then when the user actually opens the drive, the automounter kicks in and it is mounted. In this case, you simply don't need an automounter, and SuSE shows that nicely. User wants to open hard disk? - Click harddisk icon.

Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Thomas J. Magliery, Ph.D.
Volker, I can burn DVD+Rs using growisofs, but I get the above error with cdrecord-ProDVD. I can smell a dead simple solution here... === The original problem I was trying to solve was to get xcdroast to work, which requires cdrecord-ProDVD to burn DVDs. I actually had thought of your

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
True, but having an automounter like autofs would be an easy way of implementing this, and it has the advantage that it'll also work from outside of the DE. Hm, true. Any distro actually using autofs though? SuSE isn't, don't know about others. Can one assume that people who use the command

Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
The original problem I was trying to solve was to get xcdroast to work, which requires cdrecord-ProDVD to burn DVDs. I hear k3b is better anyway? You could try a wrapper script which magles -prodvd arguments into something useful for growisofs, but I'm unable to help (no time). I assume Yes

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Andy Polyakov
-a broken drive. Again, since growisofs works, I doubt this, but perhaps cdrecord avails itself of some facility that growisofs ignores. Is this the case? In other words, WHY would growisofs either not have or not be stopped by this error, while cdrecord is? Recall that cdrecord is

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Andy Polyakov
cdrecord development was then suspended for a while, and Andy Polyakov made dvd+rw-tools (growisofs) which is mainly meant for DVD+ drives, and is open source under the GPL. cdrecord release schedule was never a driving force for dvd+rw-tools, it was availability of technology and personal

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-28 Thread Lourens Veen
On Wed 28 January 2004 16:07, Joerg Schilling wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 27 21:08:37 2004 Aha, thanks for explaining that. This does pose a bit of a problem though if you have both: say I insert a CD, then the volume manager sees it and mounts it. Then I go to my magic

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * YOU ARE A SPAMMER because you use an illegal mail address * WHEN WILL YOU FINALLY follow the nettiquette? Note that because you don't follow usual agreements, I usually don't reply to your mails.

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
that cdrecord-ProDVD This is commercial binary-only software. Looks like you confuse binary with commercial. I believe it's being sold, which makes it commercial. (Note I never criticized this.) I assume you're not refuting the binary-only. DVDs. Not quite accurate, but it goes along

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-28 Thread Andy Polyakov
It seems that the Sun volume mamager performs a dummy mount for empty medium and remains quiet until you call eject cd. Upon CD/DVD media load Solaris volume manager arranges kind of bypass device entry under /vol and then invokes rmmount. Rmmount analyzes the media to identify the file system

Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tue 27 January 2004 00:51, Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri 23 January 2004 20:39, Thomas J Magliery PhD wrote: Joerg, I only can detect one message in single-user mode, and it's not too helpful: Jan 23 14:23:09

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Magicdev is a daemon that runs within the GNOME environment and detects when a CD is removed or inserted. Magicdev handles running autorun programs on the CD Ick - insert CD, run a program on it. Sounds like desaster to me. Thanks for the warning. I'm using KDE, it's never given any

Re: Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
Joerg, I removed magicdev (rpm -e magicdev) and I *still* got this error. (Lourens, I also saw this on Google; thanks for the suggestion.) I removed the file Autorun.desktop from .kde/autostart and this stopped the kernel/module message. (I probably should have mentioned I use KDE, not

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tue 27 January 2004 08:06, Lourens Veen wrote: Then there is autofs (http://freshmeat.net/projects/autofs/?topic_id=142, can't find a real homepage) and KDE uses fam (http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/), however I don't think fam actually mounts devices by itself, it just watches files. I

Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri 23 January 2004 20:39, Thomas J Magliery PhD wrote: Joerg, I only can detect one message in single-user mode, and it's not too helpful: Jan 23 14:23:09 reganlinux kernel: cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I

RE: Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Thomas J. Magliery, Ph.D.
: cannot get disk type Joerg, I removed magicdev (rpm -e magicdev) and I *still* got this error. (Lourens, I also saw this on Google; thanks for the suggestion.) I removed the file Autorun.desktop from .kde/autostart and this stopped the kernel/module message. (I probably should have

Re: Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 26 23:24:48 2004 Joerg, I removed magicdev (rpm -e magicdev) and I *still* got this error. (Lourens, I also saw this on Google; thanks for the suggestion.) I removed the file Autorun.desktop from .kde/autostart and this stopped the kernel/module message.

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: magicdev (1.1.5-1) A GNOME daemon for automatically mounting/playing CDs Magicdev is a daemon that runs within the GNOME environment and detects when a CD is removed or inserted. Magicdev handles running autorun programs on the CD, updating the

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tue 27 January 2004 20:11, Thomas J Magliery PhD wrote: You might recall from my first emails that I was also getting this error from within xcdroast, which used the (same) authentic binary from your site. I didn't realize that the command line used the RLH9 RPM installation of dvdrecord.

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tue 27 January 2004 12:06, Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: magicdev (1.1.5-1) A GNOME daemon for automatically mounting/playing CDs Magicdev is a daemon that runs within the GNOME environment and detects when a CD is removed or inserted. Magicdev

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tue 27 January 2004 21:25, Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, first there was cdrecord, which is GPL. Then DVD writers appeared, and someone adapted cdrecord to be able to record to his DVD drive, and called it dvdrecord. He didn't make very clear that

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
this was a modified version of cdrecord (or at least not clear enough as far as Jörg's concerned) which according to Jörg violates section 2a of the GPL. Hence his calling it illegal. Yeah, and as far as I am concerned, I'll just ignore Jörg's output on that topic. He seems to be the only

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
or whatever. Then when the user actually opens the drive, the automounter kicks in and it is mounted. In this case, you simply don't need an automounter, and SuSE shows that nicely. User wants to open hard disk? - Click harddisk icon. User wants to open CD? - Click CD icon. I'm sure my mother

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 12:19:17PM +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: this was a modified version of cdrecord (or at least not clear enough as far as Jörg's concerned) which according to Jörg violates section 2a of the GPL. Hence his calling it illegal. Well, I think it's pretty lame to have

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Well, I think it's pretty lame to have done a s/cdrecord/dvdrecord/, but no s/Cdrecord/Dvdrecord/ in the manpage at least. Agreed. But as the program is history, there's no point in losing any more bandwidth over it. Constructive would be to point out that history bit rather than going into a

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
Joerg, I removed the RHL9 RPMs of cdrecord, cdrecord-devel and dvdrecord, and I ran a make INS_BASE=/usr install for cdrtools. I put the cdrecord-ProDVD binary and a wrapper in /usr/bin. Unfortunately, again, this makes no difference: === [EMAIL PROTECTED] xcdroast]#

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
I can burn DVD+Rs using growisofs, but I get the above error with cdrecord-ProDVD. I can smell a dead simple solution here... Incidentally, do I correctly understand that the dvdrecord command no longer exists You can probably still download it from somewhere. There's no point in using

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, first there was cdrecord, which is GPL. Then DVD writers appeared, and someone adapted cdrecord to be able to record to his DVD drive, and called it dvdrecord. He didn't make very clear that this was a modified version of cdrecord (or at least not

Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 27 23:13:34 2004 Um, thanks for the info on dvdrecord, but I really need to know (1) why the program (cdrecord-ProDVD) isn't working and (2) if there is a quick way to remove cdrtools from /usr/local (see below for both). The drive works fine for me on Linux

RE: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
The drive works fine for me on Linux 2.4.10-4GB Are you using the 708A? Because I'm actually using the 708UF. It's the same drive, but with a USB2.0/firewire interface. Could the problem be with USB2.0? Sadly, I don't have a firewire port on this PC, but I can drop in an Audigy soundcard with

RE: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type

2004-01-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 28 00:55:56 2004 The drive works fine for me on Linux 2.4.10-4GB Are you using the 708A? Because I'm actually using the 708UF. It's the same drive, but with a USB2.0/firewire interface. Could the problem be with USB2.0? Sadly, I don't have a firewire port on

Re: Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Wed 28 January 2004 00:28, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: or whatever. Then when the user actually opens the drive, the automounter kicks in and it is mounted. In this case, you simply don't need an automounter, and SuSE shows that nicely. User wants to open hard disk? - Click harddisk icon.

Automounters - more info wanted (was Re: Re: plextor px-708uf: cannot get disk type)

2004-01-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tue 27 January 2004 00:51, Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri 23 January 2004 20:39, Thomas J Magliery PhD wrote: Joerg, I only can detect one message in single-user mode, and it's not too helpful: Jan 23 14:23:09

  1   2   >