Re: [CentOS-virt] very low performance of Xen guests

2020-06-17 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 6/15/20 5:40 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 09:42, Manuel Wolfshant mailto:wo...@nobugconsulting.ro>> wrote: On 6/15/20 2:46 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I got inspired by Adi's earlier suggestion and after reading

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.2 corrupt pxeboot kernel

2020-06-17 Thread isdtor
> pxe is working for me in this test virtualbox build. > > $ md5sum initrd.img vmlinuz > 89251241a484010b98280ce00b3a3763  initrd.img > 9261bb24add6bb4ff9ef6aaf348aaf35  vmlinuz > > ( yum updated ) > > [centos@localhost ~]$ uname -a > Linux localhost.localdomain 4.18.0-193.6.3.el8_2.x86_64 #1

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Noam Bernstein via CentOS
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Noam Bernstein said: >> Of course. My only question is whether the observation that the gap for >> CentOS 8 is indeed larger than we have come to be used to for CentOS 7. > > So, I took a look... and the answer is "it's

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:53 PM Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Noam Bernstein said: > > Of course. My only question is whether the observation that the gap > for CentOS 8 is indeed larger than we have come to be used to for CentOS 7. > > So, I took a look... and the answer is "it's

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Phil Perry
On 17/06/2020 21:05, Lamar Owen wrote: On 6/17/20 3:32 PM, Phil Perry wrote: On my home file server for example, which is not connected to the internet, what does it matter if the release is 1 month or 3 months out of date? I can install the server in the knowledge it's going to work, and

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Noam Bernstein said: > Of course. My only question is whether the observation that the gap for > CentOS 8 is indeed larger than we have come to be used to for CentOS 7. So, I took a look... and the answer is "it's not" (with a small sample set). I took dates from Wikipedia

Re: [CentOS] C8 - KVM on bridge on VLAN on team issues.

2020-06-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 6/17/20 1:51 PM, Ulf Volmer wrote: ... Just to make it sure: Did you try to disable firewalld? With my experience with libvirt and vlan bridges on Fedora, libvirt may include unwanted firewall rules which drops the traffic over the bridges. I haven't done that yet, so I'll try that next. 

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 6/17/20 3:32 PM, Phil Perry wrote: On my home file server for example, which is not connected to the internet, what does it matter if the release is 1 month or 3 months out of date? I can install the server in the knowledge it's going to work, and be supported with updates for 10 years

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Noam Bernstein via CentOS
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS > wrote: > > The answer is not inherently in the distribution itself. Make your > analysis about your needs an requirements and the choice is then yours. > > One could argue that the gap between disclosure of one security issues > and the

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 17.06.20 um 21:37 schrieb Noam Bernstein via CentOS: On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Phil Perry wrote: I get what you are saying, but what difference does it make if it has? What does it matter if the lag is 1 week, or 1 month, or more? The only reason it will matter to you is if you are

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Noam Bernstein via CentOS
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Phil Perry wrote: > > I get what you are saying, but what difference does it make if it has? What > does it matter if the lag is 1 week, or 1 month, or more? The only reason it > will matter to you is if you are trying to do something with CentOS that is > time

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Phil Perry
On 17/06/2020 20:06, Noam Bernstein via CentOS wrote: On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Phil Perry wrote: Nothing has changed in this regard for as long as I've been a CentOS user or been involved in the CentOS community. This is the essence of the question, to me. I agree that _in_principle_

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Noam Bernstein via CentOS
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Phil Perry wrote: > > Nothing has changed in this regard for as long as I've been a CentOS user or > been involved in the CentOS community. This is the essence of the question, to me. I agree that _in_principle_ nothing has changed, and I don't even see any

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Phil Perry
On 17/06/2020 18:38, Michael Kofler wrote: Hi, I am the author of said blog article. FIRST: It was never my intention to criticize the CentOS team. I appreciate the hard work you are doing. If my blog text (which is in German langugage) gave a wrong impression, I apologize. SECOND: I LOVE

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Greg Bailey
On 6/17/20 10:38 AM, Michael Kofler wrote: Hi, I am the author of said blog article. FIRST: It was never my intention to criticize the CentOS team. I appreciate the hard work you are doing. If my blog text (which is in German langugage) gave a wrong impression, I apologize. SECOND: I LOVE

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 13:11, Alessandro Baggi wrote: > > Hi Johnny, > thank you for your and all centos team works. > > Many of us know how much work is needed for building new releases and > maintaining C6 and C7, plus CentOS Stream and modules (Appstream). This is > a huge work for a small

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2020-06-17 12:38, Michael Kofler wrote: Hi, I am the author of said blog article. FIRST: It was never my intention to criticize the CentOS team. I appreciate the hard work you are doing. If my blog text (which is in German langugage) gave a wrong impression, I apologize. SECOND: I LOVE

Re: [CentOS] C8 - KVM on bridge on VLAN on team issues.

2020-06-17 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 17.06.20 17:36, Lamar Owen wrote: > On 6/17/20 11:04 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: >> ... >> It shows as being defined to 1.  I'm going to try adding to >> sysctl.conf and see if that makes any difference, though. > No difference.  What is aggravating, though, is virtually every howto on > bridging out

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Michael Kofler
Hi, I am the author of said blog article. FIRST: It was never my intention to criticize the CentOS team. I appreciate the hard work you are doing. If my blog text (which is in German langugage) gave a wrong impression, I apologize. SECOND: I LOVE CentOS. Otherwise it would not matter to me. I

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Alessandro Baggi said: > As reported in my previous message I'm not worried about how much time is > required to build the new (major/minor) release, it will be ready when it > will be. My major concern is about the "security update blackout" that take > long as the build

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Hi Johnny, thank you for your and all centos team works. Many of us know how much work is needed for building new releases and maintaining C6 and C7, plus CentOS Stream and modules (Appstream). This is a huge work for a small team. Again thank you. For me OL is not an alternative. As reported

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.2 corrupt pxeboot kernel

2020-06-17 Thread Jack Bailey via CentOS
On 2020-06-17 08:46, isdtor wrote: Attempting to PXE boot from the BaseOS/x86_64/kickstart/images/pxeboot/ files results in repeating messages Invalid or corrupt kernel image eventually changing to Could not find kernel image: centos8.2.x86_64/vmlinuz I downloaded the files again, from a

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:09:07PM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > On 6/17/20 10:19 AM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: > >... > >I wonder about the authors conclusion; the fact that RHEL is the choice > >for critical applications (what ever critical is) is known since > >the early days. This applies

Re: [CentOS] Amd es1000

2020-06-17 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 6:13 PM paride desimone wrote: > Uhm, X dont't start :-( > > I overlooked your post... my suggestions was for installation phase, but you did install apparently.. did you install in graphic mode or by other text based means (kickstart, pxe, ecc)? Or perhaps you installed

Re: [CentOS] Amd es1000

2020-06-17 Thread paride desimone
Uhm, X dont't start :-( Il mer 17 giu 2020, 15:34 Gianluca Cecchi ha scritto: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:56 PM paride desimone wrote: > > > Hi, i have a proliant dl380 g5, with an amd as1000. I try to install > > centos8 with gui, but when try to start the new installed system, the > >

Re: [CentOS] Compile gnutls yo install samba-4.12.3

2020-06-17 Thread isdtor
Rommel Rodriguez Toirac writes: > Hello all; > Has anyone installed samba4 from sources (samba-4.12.3.tar.gz) on CentOS 7? > I explain the problem: to install samba-4.12.3 you need to install a version > equal to or greater than 3.4.7 of gnutls; this (gnutls) depends on nettle and > gmp. > I

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 6/17/20 10:19 AM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: ... I wonder about the authors conclusion; the fact that RHEL is the choice for critical applications (what ever critical is) is known since the early days. This applies randomly to C5.11, C4.9 or C8.2.2004. So - cold soup get cooked again

[CentOS] CentOS 8.2 corrupt pxeboot kernel

2020-06-17 Thread isdtor
Attempting to PXE boot from the BaseOS/x86_64/kickstart/images/pxeboot/ files results in repeating messages Invalid or corrupt kernel image eventually changing to Could not find kernel image: centos8.2.x86_64/vmlinuz I downloaded the files again, from a different mirror, and they are all the

[CentOS] Compile gnutls yo install samba-4.12.3

2020-06-17 Thread Rommel Rodriguez Toirac
Hello all; Has anyone installed samba4 from sources (samba-4.12.3.tar.gz) on CentOS 7? I explain the problem: to install samba-4.12.3 you need to install a version equal to or greater than 3.4.7 of gnutls; this (gnutls) depends on nettle and gmp. I am trying to install gnutls-3.6.14; I

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Alessandro Baggi > wrote: > > > Il 17/06/20 15:42, Scott Robbins ha scritto: >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 02:23:36PM +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: >>> About Oracle as alternative. Oracle Linux is not an alternative to CentOS but for RHEL and if I will force

Re: [CentOS] C8 - KVM on bridge on VLAN on team issues.

2020-06-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 6/17/20 11:04 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: ... It shows as being defined to 1.  I'm going to try adding to sysctl.conf and see if that makes any difference, though. No difference.  What is aggravating, though, is virtually every howto on bridging out there refers to the deprecated brctl utility

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > On 6/17/20 8:06 AM, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just read this blog article from austrian Linux expert Michael Kofler. >>> For >>> those among you who don't know the guy, he's my home country's number one >>> Linux

Re: [CentOS] C8 - KVM on bridge on VLAN on team issues.

2020-06-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 6/17/20 9:59 AM, Deventer-2, M.S.J. van wrote: Hi, the first thing that comes to mind, did you set ip_forward to enable in /etc/sysctl.conf ? net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 Should explain why you IP on the bridge works but not on the vms. First, thanks for the reply and excellent suggestion. 

Re: [CentOS] EL8 / certwatch missing

2020-06-17 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
> Am 17.06.20 um 12:28 schrieb John Horne: >> On Sun, 2020-06-07 at 23:36 +0200, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: >>> I have some scripts using certwatch from the crypto-utils package. This >>> rpm seems to be unshipped with EL8. Any ideas whats the "new" tool to >>> check pem cert files? >>> >> Hi,

Re: [CentOS] EL8 / certwatch missing

2020-06-17 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 17.06.20 um 12:28 schrieb John Horne: On Sun, 2020-06-07 at 23:36 +0200, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: I have some scripts using certwatch from the crypto-utils package. This rpm seems to be unshipped with EL8. Any ideas whats the "new" tool to check pem cert files? Hi, I have used the

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 17.06.20 um 09:16 schrieb Nicolas Kovacs: Hi, I just read this blog article from austrian Linux expert Michael Kofler. For those among you who don't know the guy, he's my home country's number one Linux expert (known as "der Kofler") and most notably the author of a series of excellent books

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 6/17/20 8:06 AM, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just read this blog article from austrian Linux expert Michael Kofler. >> For >> those among you who don't know the guy, he's my home country's number one >> Linux >> expert (known as "der Kofler") and most notably the author of a

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 17/06/20 15:42, Scott Robbins ha scritto: On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 02:23:36PM +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: About Oracle as alternative. Oracle Linux is not an alternative to CentOS but for RHEL and if I will force to pay for enteprise system currently I will pay RHEL, not OL. Over this, OL is

Re: [CentOS] C8 - KVM on bridge on VLAN on team issues.

2020-06-17 Thread Deventer-2, M.S.J. van
Hi, the first thing that comes to mind, did you set ip_forward to enable in /etc/sysctl.conf ? net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 Should explain why you IP on the bridge works but not on the vms. Regards, Michel On Wed, 2020-06-17 at 09:43 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > As part of my initial KVM host

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 09:42, Scott Robbins wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 02:23:36PM +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > About Oracle as alternative. Oracle Linux is not an alternative to > > > CentOS but for RHEL and if I will force to pay for enteprise system > > > currently I will pay

Re: [CentOS] firewall help request

2020-06-17 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article , Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, Leroy Tennison wrote: > > > I have a gateway machine (currently Centos 7 with IPV4 only) with two > > NICs. One is connected to the internet, the other to an internal > > network (10.0.0.0/24) of mixed hardware (windows7, android tablets,

[CentOS] C8 - KVM on bridge on VLAN on team issues.

2020-06-17 Thread Lamar Owen
As part of my initial KVM host on C8 deployment, I decided to set up some HA features on the new host, specifically NIC teaming. Teaming seems to be bond++ of a sort, so I thought I would at least try it.  So here's the scenario: 1.) Server with two gigabit ethernet ports, two Cisco switches.

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 02:23:36PM +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > About Oracle as alternative. Oracle Linux is not an alternative to > > CentOS but for RHEL and if I will force to pay for enteprise system > > currently I will pay RHEL, not OL. Over this, OL is not the only > > enterprise

Re: [CentOS] Amd es1000

2020-06-17 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:56 PM paride desimone wrote: > Hi, i have a proliant dl380 g5, with an amd as1000. I try to install > centos8 with gui, but when try to start the new installed system, the > xserver don't start. There is a throuble with the amd es1000 driver. This > grafic card, seems

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Pete Biggs
> About Oracle as alternative. Oracle Linux is not an alternative to > CentOS but for RHEL and if I will force to pay for enteprise system > currently I will pay RHEL, not OL. Over this, OL is not the only > enterprise distro that a "user" could choose. If support is needed there > are SUSE

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
> Hi, > > I just read this blog article from austrian Linux expert Michael Kofler. > For > those among you who don't know the guy, he's my home country's number one > Linux > expert (known as "der Kofler") and most notably the author of a series of > excellent books about Linux over the last 25

Re: [CentOS] Centos7 and Vlan

2020-06-17 Thread Alfredo De Luca
Thanks guys. I ll go through all your recò and links tomorrow and let you know. I might post my configuration so you can have a look at it. Cheers /Alfredo On Wed., 17 Jun. 2020, 3:34 am Gordon Messmer, wrote: > On 6/16/20 1:56 AM, Alfredo De Luca wrote: > > I have centos7 with 1 network

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 184, Issue 7

2020-06-17 Thread centos-announce-request
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[CentOS] Amd es1000

2020-06-17 Thread paride desimone
Hi, i have a proliant dl380 g5, with an amd as1000. I try to install centos8 with gui, but when try to start the new installed system, the xserver don't start. There is a throuble with the amd es1000 driver. This grafic card, seems not supported more from amd. I need a minimalistic gui for study

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Tom Bishop
*snip > > > Thank you for sharing, I found it interesting. > > My 2 Cent > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos +1 Longtime user but with the current sturcture they have turned it (centos8)

Re: [CentOS] EL8 / certwatch missing

2020-06-17 Thread John Horne
On Sun, 2020-06-07 at 23:36 +0200, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: > I have some scripts using certwatch from the crypto-utils package. This > rpm seems to be unshipped with EL8. Any ideas whats the "new" tool to > check pem cert files? > Hi, I have used the 'x509watch' package for several years

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 17/06/20 09:16, Nicolas Kovacs ha scritto: Hi, I just read this blog article from austrian Linux expert Michael Kofler. For those among you who don't know the guy, he's my home country's number one Linux expert (known as "der Kofler") and most notably the author of a series of excellent

Re: [CentOS] Updating microcode_ctl froze Centos7

2020-06-17 Thread Robin Lee
On Mon, 2020-06-15 at 22:25 +0200, Robin Lee wrote: > On Fri, 2020-06-12 at 09:20 +0200, Robin Lee wrote: > > Today when I ran yum update two packages came up microcode_ctl > > and unbound-libs. The updating process went fine until it > > outputted > > > > Running transaction > > Updating :

[CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Hi, I just read this blog article from austrian Linux expert Michael Kofler. For those among you who don't know the guy, he's my home country's number one Linux expert (known as "der Kofler") and most notably the author of a series of excellent books about Linux over the last 25 years.

Re: [CentOS] After update to 8 (2004) ... system is unbootable - UEFI Secure boot

2020-06-17 Thread Fabian Arrotin
On 17/06/2020 04:03, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: > Am 16.06.20 um 22:04 schrieb Fabian Arrotin: >> On 16/06/2020 15:06, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I updated a Dell XPS laptop from CentOS 8.1 (1911) to 8.2 (2004). >>> >>> Installed kernels are >>>

Re: [CentOS] firewall help request (solved)

2020-06-17 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
> At 03:47 PM 6/16/2020, Kenneth Porter wrote: >>The rule is in the wrong chain. The INPUT chain affects packets that >>terminate at the same machine. You want to block packets that will >>be passed on to the Internet, so your rule needs to be in the >>FORWARD chain. (The OUTPUT chain affects