Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-06 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 10/02/2014 12:39 AM, Devin Reade wrote: On Oct 1, 2014, at 22:57, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: [...] Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not planning to use Windows, at least around here, I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-04 Thread Phil Wyett
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on. And that simple statement led to an all-day odyssey. My original plan was to purchase a laptop and install Centos 6 on it. I went to Staples and tried booting it on every model

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-04 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 12:56 +0100, Phil Wyett wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on. And that simple statement led to an all-day odyssey. My intention is to run CentOS 6.x and VM Windows and any other OS

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-04 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 10/4/14, Phil Wyett philwy...@aura-tech-systems.co.uk wrote: My intention is to run CentOS 6.x and VM Windows and any other OS etc. After discarding many options I seem to have settled with an eye on a HP ProBook 455 G2.

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-04 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 14:58 +0100, Always Learning wrote: On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 12:56 +0100, Phil Wyett wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on. And that simple statement led to an all-day odyssey. My

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-04 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, October 4, 2014 8:58 am, Always Learning wrote: On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 12:56 +0100, Phil Wyett wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on. And that simple statement led to an all-day odyssey. My intention

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread wwp
Hello Frank, On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:57:30 -0600 Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on. And that simple statement led to an all-day odyssey. [snip] Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread John Doe
My asus laptop booted linux fine... until the motherboard fried though. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Victoria Svitovenko
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Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Victoria Svitovenko
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Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 02-10-14 09:01, wwp schreef: Hello Frank, On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:57:30 -0600 Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on. And that simple statement led to an all-day odyssey. [snip] Since it has now become amazingly difficult

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread wwp
Hello, On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:01:19 +0200 Johan Vermeulen jvermeu...@cawdekempen.be wrote: op 02-10-14 09:01, wwp schreef: Hello Frank, On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:57:30 -0600 Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on. And

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Brian Miller
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? Been using CentOS.available on a series of Dell Precision laptops (M4300, M4600) since 2007 or so without much difficulty.

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread isdtor
Thinkpad T series, and fully agree with Devin. Rock-solid, and pretty much all the pieces work - even Optimus. Still, CentOS would never be my first choice for a personal laptop ... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread David Both
Many years ago I purchased a Dell Inspiron direct from Dell and had very similar issues, so it is not just WinBloze 8, it is that the systems are intentionally set up to make it difficult. Took me about 3 hours just to get to the BIOS because the window of time was less than 1 second to hit the

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
1. use Fedora Live instead of CentOS for boot test, then install CentOS and replace the kernel with ELRepo kernel-ml. This is usually newer even than Fedora's, thus presumably with much better support for new HW than stock CentOS. Of course, the risk here is that CentOS would not

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 02-10-14 11:33, wwp schreef: Hello, On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:01:19 +0200 Johan Vermeulen jvermeu...@cawdekempen.be wrote: op 02-10-14 09:01, wwp schreef: Hello Frank, On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:57:30 -0600 Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Today I found myself in need of a

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/2/2014 12:01 AM, wwp wrote: Dell Latitude series, from the old D810 to more recent E65xx ones. well, I'd have said D600 to E64xx, as those big ones are boat anchors for travel. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread wwp
Hello Johan, On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 14:16:05 +0200 Johan Vermeulen jvermeu...@cawdekempen.be wrote: op 02-10-14 11:33, wwp schreef: Hello, On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:01:19 +0200 Johan Vermeulen jvermeu...@cawdekempen.be wrote: op 02-10-14 09:01, wwp schreef: Hello Frank, On

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, October 2, 2014 7:16 am, Johan Vermeulen wrote: op 02-10-14 11:33, wwp schreef: Hello, On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:01:19 +0200 Johan Vermeulen jvermeu...@cawdekempen.be wrote: op 02-10-14 09:01, wwp schreef: Hello Frank, On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:57:30 -0600 Frank Cox

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread ken
On 10/02/2014 07:02 AM isdtor wrote: Thinkpad T series, and fully agree with Devin. Rock-solid, and pretty much all the pieces work - even Optimus. Still, CentOS would never be my first choice for a personal laptop ... Why not? (Not disagreeing, not either agreeing. Just wondering about

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread isdtor
On 2 October 2014 14:22, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: On 10/02/2014 07:02 AM isdtor wrote: Thinkpad T series, and fully agree with Devin. Rock-solid, and pretty much all the pieces work - even Optimus. Still, CentOS would never be my first choice for a personal laptop ... Why not? (Not

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread John Hoe
On Oct 2, 2014 9:23 PM, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: On 10/02/2014 07:02 AM isdtor wrote: Thinkpad T series, and fully agree with Devin. Rock-solid, and pretty much all the pieces work - even Optimus. Still, CentOS would never be my first choice for a personal laptop ... Why not? (Not

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 14:48 +0100, isdtor wrote: A new and recent requirement is to keep the machine free of poetteringware as much as possible. Too optimistic. As Johnny states: what is in RHEL is, inevitably, in Centos. I'm staying on Centos 6 .. for as long as possible. Regards,

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, October 2, 2014 9:02 am, Always Learning wrote: On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 14:48 +0100, isdtor wrote: A new and recent requirement is to keep the machine free of poetteringware as much as possible. Too optimistic. As Johnny states: what is in RHEL is, inevitably, in Centos. I'm

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 02-10-14 15:01, Valeri Galtsev schreef: On Thu, October 2, 2014 7:16 am, Johan Vermeulen wrote: op 02-10-14 11:33, wwp schreef: Hello, On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:01:19 +0200 Johan Vermeulen jvermeu...@cawdekempen.be wrote: op 02-10-14 09:01, wwp schreef: Hello Frank, On Wed, 1 Oct 2014

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Chris Pemberton
On 10/01/2014 11:57 PM, Frank Cox wrote: I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? Next time this comes up, I'd rather not have to spend all day on something that used to take fifteen minutes. I don't make laptop purchases often... but it's 100%

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-02, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not planning to use Windows, at least around here, I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? Next time this comes

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread jwyeth . arch
Any Windows 8 laptop requires secure boot does it not? If I'm not mistaken that's where your issues stem from. Just Micro$oft trying to get even more control from what I've heard. — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Today I found

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, October 2, 2014 10:48 am, Keith Keller wrote: On 2014-10-02, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not planning to use Windows, at least around here, I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Keith Keller kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us wrote: On 2014-10-02, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not planning to use Windows, at least around here, I'm wondering what the

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 09:02:28 -0700 (PDT) jwyeth.a...@gmail.com wrote: Any Windows 8 laptop requires secure boot does it not? If I'm not mistaken that's where your issues stem from. The second-last step in my little how-to list is set secure boot off. None of those laptops worked with Centos

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread m . roth
Keith Keller wrote: On 2014-10-02, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not planning to use Windows, at least around here, I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? Next

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread m . roth
Frank Cox wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 09:02:28 -0700 (PDT) jwyeth.a...@gmail.com wrote: Any Windows 8 laptop requires secure boot does it not? If I'm not mistaken that's where your issues stem from. The second-last step in my little how-to list is set secure boot off. None of those laptops

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Mark Tinberg
The second-last step in my little how-to list is set secure boot off. None of those laptops worked with Centos 6 after that. (I tried Acer, Asus, Lenovo and HP -- everything in the store from the cheapest one up to about $800 or so.) You sure there was no *separate* thing to check to

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:49:18 -0400 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: You sure there was no *separate* thing to check to -enable- legacy boot? If there was, it was exceptionally well hidden. There aren't a whole lot of options in those bios's, though, and I saw at least four completely different

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 16:56:57 + Mark Tinberg wrote: CentOS 7 booted just fine on those devices and should work with SecureBoot enabled as well. Centos 7 booted just fine on the third one that I tried and then I stopped trying and purchased that one. There was no joy with the two before

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On 10/02/2014 06:39 AM, Brian Miller wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? Been using CentOS.available on a series of Dell Precision laptops (M4300, M4600) since 2007 or so without

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Mike McCarthy, W1NR
On 10/02/2014 01:38 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 10/02/2014 06:39 AM, Brian Miller wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? Been using CentOS.available on a series of Dell Precision laptops

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On 10/02/2014 02:11 PM, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote: If you look at the Latitude and Precision offerings from Dell you will notice that RHEL is offered as an OS. These are specifically designed to run Linux and therefore, they should all work fine with CentOS as well. Very true; Dell has

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-02, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Thu, October 2, 2014 10:48 am, Keith Keller wrote: I know this is probably a bit sacrilegious, but recently I have been tending to get a Mac laptop, and run any linux distributions I need inside a VM. OS X is (just barely)

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Chris Pemberton
On 10/02/2014 12:01 PM, Frank Cox wrote: Most of the machines (I think all of them, actually) started to boot Centos 6 to at least some extent. They just failed (lock up, kernel panic, etc) somewhere along the line after that. And Centos 7 did work on the third one that I tried. On the HP

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, October 2, 2014 1:11 pm, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote: On 10/02/2014 01:38 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 10/02/2014 06:39 AM, Brian Miller wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? Been

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread m . roth
Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, October 2, 2014 1:11 pm, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote: On 10/02/2014 01:38 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 10/02/2014 06:39 AM, Brian Miller wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to

[CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-01 Thread Frank Cox
Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on. And that simple statement led to an all-day odyssey. My original plan was to purchase a laptop and install Centos 6 on it. I went to Staples and tried booting it on every model of laptop that they had in the store. They all come

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-01 Thread Devin Reade
On Oct 1, 2014, at 22:57, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: [...] Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not planning to use Windows, at least around here, I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? For