Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-02 Thread John Doe
From: John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com On 7/1/2013 10:57 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: DRM'ed server hardware.  Pure evil. why is that evil?  why should you pay for features you're not using? Maybe we are in the end paying the old full price for the new limited features... And when we want

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-02 Thread James B. Byrne
On Mon, July 1, 2013 14:03, John R Pierce wrote: On 7/1/2013 10:57 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: DRM'ed server hardware. Pure evil. why is that evil? why should you pay for features you're not using? Actually, firmware control of system features has been part of HPQ's business practice for as

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-02 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Monday 01 July 2013 20:21:41 natxo asenjo wrote: On 06/26/2013 10:29 PM, Marcelo Roccasalva wrote: You need a license from HP to access your hard disks... Stupid, but real... wow, just, wow. If this is true I will advise against buying any HP server kit whenever we need to buy new

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4 [OT]

2013-07-02 Thread m . roth
James B. Byrne wrote: On Mon, July 1, 2013 14:03, John R Pierce wrote: On 7/1/2013 10:57 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: DRM'ed server hardware. Pure evil. why is that evil? why should you pay for features you're not using? Actually, firmware control of system features has been part of HPQ's

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4 [OT]

2013-07-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/2/2013 6:54 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Just so you know, that's not only in the computer industry. Many years ago, been common practice in the computer industry for a long long time. The first computer system I learned to program on, and my first full time job, were on the krufty old IBM

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread Nathan Duehr
On Jun 26, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Marcelo Roccasalva marcelo-cen...@irrigacion.gov.ar wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:52 AM, ☼ Francis francis.s.mend...@gmail.com wrote: Este é Inglês lista utilize palavras em inglês 2013/6/26 Sergio Alex sergio...@gmail.com Gostaria de instalar o

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/1/2013 10:57 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: DRM'ed server hardware. Pure evil. why is that evil? why should you pay for features you're not using? -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread natxo asenjo
On 06/26/2013 10:29 PM, Marcelo Roccasalva wrote: You need a license from HP to access your hard disks... Stupid, but real... wow, just, wow. If this is true I will advise against buying any HP server kit whenever we need to buy new servers. -- groet, natxo

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: On 7/1/2013 10:57 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: DRM'ed server hardware. Pure evil. why is that evil? why should you pay for features you're not using? You need to license, if I understand Nathan correctly, the drives you put in, when you decide to add more disks, and don't

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/01/2013 01:57 PM, Nathan Duehr wrote: On Jun 26, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Marcelo Roccasalva marcelo-cen...@irrigacion.gov.ar wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:52 AM, ☼ Francis francis.s.mend...@gmail.com wrote: Este é Inglês lista utilize palavras em inglês 2013/6/26 Sergio Alex

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread Nathan Duehr
On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:20 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: John R Pierce wrote: On 7/1/2013 10:57 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: DRM'ed server hardware. Pure evil. why is that evil? why should you pay for features you're not using? You need to license, if I understand Nathan correctly, the drives

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/1/2013 11:30 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: The significant problem we ran into was someone at an upstream vendor orders HP stuff via individual part numbers in a specific configuration for us, so we get a server, some disks, whatever... and assemble them on-site. They didn't know (bad

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 01.07.2013 um 20:39 schrieb John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com: On 7/1/2013 11:30 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: The significant problem we ran into was someone at an upstream vendor orders HP stuff via individual part numbers in a specific configuration for us, so we get a server, some disks,

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread m . roth
Rainer Duffner wrote: Am 01.07.2013 um 20:39 schrieb John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com: On 7/1/2013 11:30 AM, Nathan Duehr wrote: The significant problem we ran into was someone at an upstream vendor orders HP stuff via individual part numbers in a specific configuration for us, so we get a

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/1/2013 11:55 AM, Rainer Duffner wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but I believe, with SuperMicro Servers, I'd have to have a much larger (and better organized) inventory of spares that might only fit into specific /model/ servers… fixed that. :-/ -- john r pierce

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/1/2013 12:01 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And we like Dell, a lot. When we get a server with a PERC 6xx or 7xx, it *works*, we don't need special licenses or whatever to activate it. this wasn't the equivalent of a perc6/7, it was onboard basic stuff. i usually get HP kit with p410 cards

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread Nathan Duehr
On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 01.07.2013 20:30, schrieb Nathan Duehr: The significant problem we ran into was someone at an upstream vendor orders HP stuff via individual part numbers in a specific configuration for us, so we get a

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 01.07.2013 um 22:30 schrieb Nathan Duehr denverpi...@me.com: On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 01.07.2013 20:30, schrieb Nathan Duehr: The significant problem we ran into was someone at an upstream vendor orders HP stuff via individual

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/1/2013 1:30 PM, Nathan Duehr wrote: Like at most companies, the purchasing folks are as far removed from the actual server operations/build folks that there's a complete disconnect anyway... I could talk to the wall as well as I could specify a vendor. They're pizza boxes. our

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread m . roth
Nathan Duehr wrote: On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: snip We get along fine with our VAR, and they've changed how they order those machines now... but HP's silly hardware licensing games are HP's self-created problem, which trickles down to the VARs.

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread Rob Kampen
On 07/02/2013 07:50 AM, John R Pierce wrote: On 7/1/2013 12:01 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And we like Dell, a lot. When we get a server with a PERC 6xx or 7xx, it *works*, we don't need special licenses or whatever to activate it. this wasn't the equivalent of a perc6/7, it was onboard basic

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread natxo asenjo
On 07/01/2013 10:30 PM, Nathan Duehr wrote: I wish you good tidings, and may you always be the smartest person with the Best l33t GOLD level VAR EVAR !!1! LOL -- groet, natxo ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-07-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/1/2013 1:51 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: is not explicitly shown. this is the DL380e Gen8 flavor... http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14328_na/14328_na.pdf Standard Features - Storage Controller - One of the following depending on Model * Entry Model - SATA - HP Dynamic Smart

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-06-26 Thread Marcelo Roccasalva
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:52 AM, ☼ Francis francis.s.mend...@gmail.com wrote: Este é Inglês lista utilize palavras em inglês 2013/6/26 Sergio Alex sergio...@gmail.com Gostaria de instalar o Centos 6.4 em um dl380e g8 com uma smart array b320i, na instalação não possui drives por isso

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-06-26 Thread Sergio Alex
Thanks, Perfect, initialize the smart array and the instalation can´t find a disk yet, i didnt´t have option to chose a logical drive, but if a chose use a driver disk, show /dev/sdb, so he find a new disk Please help, 2013/6/26 ☼ Francis francis.s.mend...@gmail.com Este é Inglês

[CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-06-25 Thread Sergio Alex
Gostaria de instalar o Centos 6.4 em um dl380e g8 com uma smart array b320i, na instalação não possui drives por isso aparece que não há discos disponíveis, baixei os drives para red hat .dd do site da HP, como poderia carregar esses drives durante a instalação? gravei eles em um pen drive.

Re: [CentOS] DL380g8 - smart array B320i - CentOS 6.4

2013-06-25 Thread ☼ Francis
Este é Inglês lista utilize palavras em inglês 2013/6/26 Sergio Alex sergio...@gmail.com Gostaria de instalar o Centos 6.4 em um dl380e g8 com uma smart array b320i, na instalação não possui drives por isso aparece que não há discos disponíveis, baixei os drives para red hat .dd do site da