Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-03-02 Thread David Sommerseth
On 01/03/11 21:02, John R Pierce wrote: On 03/01/11 11:51 AM, Always Learning wrote: 4 hex digits vs. 1-3 decimal digits provides adequate disambiguation. 1:2:3:4 or 1.2.3.4 ? Each segment of the former is a valid 'decimal' number and also a valid 'hexadecimal' number. Each segment of the

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-03-01 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 12:24 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: http://21DA:00D3::00FF:FE28:8080 is that... http://[21DA:00D3::::00FF:FE28:8080] or http://[21DA:00D3:::::00FF:FE28]:8080 What separator would you

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-03-01 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 14:20 -0500, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 12:24 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: http://21DA:00D3::00FF:FE28:8080 is that... http://[21DA:00D3::::00FF:FE28:8080] or

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-03-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/01/11 11:51 AM, Always Learning wrote: 4 hex digits vs. 1-3 decimal digits provides adequate disambiguation. 1:2:3:4 or 1.2.3.4 ? Each segment of the former is a valid 'decimal' number and also a valid 'hexadecimal' number. Each segment of the later is a valid decimal number. except

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-28 Thread Cameron Kerr
On 28/02/2011, at 10:30 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 2/27/11 12:50 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 02/27/11 9:16 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Is there any difference in efficiency in how well the NIC hardware filters the assigned addresses? Yes, as mentioned below, the NIC is given a list of

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread David Sommerseth
On 27/02/11 06:46, Always Learning wrote: Octets Thanks for pointing-out my misunderstanding. I'll remember 2 octets are really 2 characters (IBM's bytes) = 2 digits, 4 octal numbers or 4 hexadecimal numbers. This is a confusing summary. 3 bits = 1 octal number (values 0-7) 4 bits = 1

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread Always Learning
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 00:38 -0600, Larry Vaden wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Always Learning cen...@g7.u22.net wrote: Today I received an allocation of IP6 addresses for some servers. I can 'play' with the last 2 of the 8 IP6 address segments. I guess Will Rogers was correct

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Always Learning cen...@g7.u22.net wrote: I was actually wrong. I can 'play' with not 2 but 4 groups of the IP6 allocation. Golly, what can I do with 64 x 64 x 64 x 64 address combinations?  Hire then out?  Have a different IP6 address for every hour of the

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 01:44:17PM +, Always Learning wrote: I was actually wrong. I can 'play' with not 2 but 4 groups of the IP6 allocation. Golly, what can I do with 64 x 64 x 64 x 64 address That's an odd combination. 64 is 6 bits, which has nothing to do with an IPv6 group. Many

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread David Sommerseth
On 27/02/11 14:44, Always Learning wrote: I was actually wrong. I can 'play' with not 2 but 4 groups of the IP6 allocation. Golly, what can I do with 64 x 64 x 64 x 64 address combinations? Hire then out? Have a different IP6 address for every hour of the year? If you got allocated a /48

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/27/11 8:00 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Always Learningcen...@g7.u22.net wrote: I was actually wrong. I can 'play' with not 2 but 4 groups of the IP6 allocation. Golly, what can I do with 64 x 64 x 64 x 64 address combinations? Hire then out? Have a

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/27/11 9:38 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: Yes, IPv6 gives every site a lot of more possibilities. And in IPv6 each NIC can have multiple IPv6 addresses, without using aliasing which is needed for IPv4. If you want to allocate 30 IPv6 addresses to one adapter, you may do so very easily.

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread John R Pierce
On 02/27/11 9:16 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Is there any difference in efficiency in how well the NIC hardware filters the assigned addresses? NIC's work in MAC addresses, not IP. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/27/11 12:50 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 02/27/11 9:16 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Is there any difference in efficiency in how well the NIC hardware filters the assigned addresses? NIC's work in MAC addresses, not IP. Sort-of. Most NICs know enough about IPv4 multicast to at least help

[CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread Always Learning
Today I received an allocation of IP6 addresses for some servers. I can 'play' with the last 2 of the 8 IP6 address segments. I always thought, mistakenly, IP6 was 6 segments, because it was IP6. IP4 had 4 segments. However IP6 is actually IP version 6 and it has 8 segments. The other

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 02/26/11 12:12 PM, Always Learning wrote: Because : is sometimes used in an address to indicate the start of a port number, examplehttp://www.anyonejunk.com:1234, the IP6 address can be enclosed within [ ] with the port number remaining outside the square brackets. Thats, MUST be enclosed

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 26.02.2011 um 21:24 schrieb John R Pierce: On 02/26/11 12:12 PM, Always Learning wrote: Because : is sometimes used in an address to indicate the start of a port number, examplehttp://www.anyonejunk.com:1234, the IP6 address can be enclosed within [ ] with the port number remaining

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 12:24 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: On 02/26/11 12:12 PM, Always Learning wrote: Because : is sometimes used in an address to indicate the start of a port number, example http://www.anyonejunk.com:1234, the IP6 address can be enclosed within [ ] with the port number

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 21:33 +0100, Rainer Duffner wrote: With IPV6, you don't need to run it on a different port. Just bind it to a different IP in the same prefix ;-) So, that port-8080 stuff will be gone pretty soon. Very interesting point. In a year or two. Cough-cough. That long?

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 02/26/11 12:33 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: With IPV6, you don't need to run it on a different port. Just bind it to a different IP in the same prefix ;-) So, that port-8080 stuff will be gone pretty soon. In a year or two. Cough-cough. when I first saw the spec for IPv6 I mistakenly thought

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread sheraznaz
Always learning wrote: I always thought, mistakenly, IP6 was 6 segments, because it was IP6. IP4 had 4 segments. However IP6 is actually IP version 6 and it has 8 segments. I don't think I ever heard IP6, but always IPv6. Counting segments might not be as meaningful. IPv6 has twice (8)

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 12:41 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: On 02/26/11 12:33 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: With IPV6, you don't need to run it on a different port. Just bind it to a different IP in the same prefix ;-) So, that port-8080 stuff will be gone pretty soon. In a year or two.

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 20:58 +, sheraz...@yahoo.com wrote: IPv6 has twice (8) segments compared to IPv4 however each segment is 2 octets making IPv6 address space 4 times (128 bits) compared to IPv4 (32 bits). Oct... means 8. Each segment of an IP6 segment can contain 4 hexadecimal

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread Kevin K
2 hex digits is 1 octet (or byte). On Feb 26, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 20:58 +, sheraz...@yahoo.com wrote: IPv6 has twice (8) segments compared to IPv4 however each segment is 2 octets making IPv6 address space 4 times (128 bits) compared to IPv4

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread John R Pierce
Creating lots of dummy IP6 addresses to confuse hackers is not an ideal solution. scanning ports on an IP vs scanning IPs. whatever. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread John R Pierce
IPv6 has twice (8) segments compared to IPv4 however each segment is 2 octets making IPv6 address space 4 times (128 bits) compared to IPv4 (32 bits). Oct... means 8. Each segment of an IP6 segment can contain 4 hexadecimal digits. Hexadecimal means 0 to F. Are you sure 'octets' is

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread Always Learning
Octets Thanks for pointing-out my misunderstanding. I'll remember 2 octets are really 2 characters (IBM's bytes) = 2 digits, 4 octal numbers or 4 hexadecimal numbers. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] IP6 Anyone?

2011-02-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 02/26/11 9:46 PM, Always Learning wrote: Octets Thanks for pointing-out my misunderstanding. I'll remember 2 octets are really 2 characters (IBM's bytes) = 2 digits, 4 octal numbers or 4 hexadecimal numbers. 4 octal (base 8) digits only represents 12 bits. byte oriented computers