Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-04-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/31/21 12:50 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: The problem with using Rsnapshot on the VM's filesystems rather than backing up the whole VM is the time it takes to restore all the mess. All the same, backing up the VM filesystem from within the VM is the best way to back them up using rsnapshot.

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-04-01 Thread Peter Eckel via CentOS
> All relevant logging is centralised to a server cluster running Graylog. ... and, because I forgot to mention it: Yes, that server cluster has a "persistent data" device. Regards, Peter. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-04-01 Thread Peter Eckel via CentOS
Hi Simon, > Whenever I read such things I'm wondering, what about things like log > files? Do you call them OS files or persistent data? How do you back'em up > then? I don't. All relevant logging is centralised to a server cluster running Graylog. Regards, Peter.

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-04-01 Thread Simon Matter
> Hi Niki, > > I'm using a similar approach like Stephen's, but with a kink. > > * Kickstart all machines from a couple of ISOs, depending on the > requirements (the Kickstart process is controlled by Ansible) > * Machines that have persistent data (which make up about 50% in average) > have at

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-04-01 Thread Peter Eckel via CentOS
Hi Niki, I'm using a similar approach like Stephen's, but with a kink. * Kickstart all machines from a couple of ISOs, depending on the requirements (the Kickstart process is controlled by Ansible) * Machines that have persistent data (which make up about 50% in average) have at least two

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-03-31 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 31/03/2021 à 21:35, Gionatan Danti a écrit : > > Finally, I would leave the current rsnapshot backups in-place: you will simply > copy from a virtual machine rather than from a bare metal host. I found > rsnapshot really useful and reliable, so I suggest to continue using it even > if >

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-03-31 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 2021-03-31 14:41 Nicolas Kovacs ha scritto: Hi, Up until recently I've hosted all my stuff (web & mail) on a handful of bare metal servers. Web applications (WordPress, OwnCloud, Dolibarr, GEPI, Roundcube) as well as mail and a few other things were hosted mostly on one big machine.

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-03-31 Thread Simon Matter
> Hi, > > Up until recently I've hosted all my stuff (web & mail) on a handful of > bare > metal servers. Web applications (WordPress, OwnCloud, Dolibarr, GEPI, > Roundcube) as well as mail and a few other things were hosted mostly on > one big > machine. > > Backups for this setup were done using

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-03-31 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
On 31.03.21 14:41, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Hi, Up until recently I've hosted all my stuff (web & mail) on a handful of bare metal servers. Web applications (WordPress, OwnCloud, Dolibarr, GEPI, Roundcube) as well as mail and a few other things were hosted mostly on one big machine. Backups for

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-03-31 Thread Robert Heller
What *I* do for backing up KVM VMs is that I use LVM volumes, not QCOW2 images. Then I take a LVM "snapshot" volume, then mount that locally / readonly on the host and use tar (via Amanda). Another option is to install Amanda's client on the VM itself and use Amanda to use tar (running on

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-03-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 08:41, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > Up until recently I've hosted all my stuff (web & mail) on a handful of > bare > metal servers. Web applications (WordPress, OwnCloud, Dolibarr, GEPI, > Roundcube) as well as mail and a few other things were hosted mostly on > one big

[CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-03-31 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Hi, Up until recently I've hosted all my stuff (web & mail) on a handful of bare metal servers. Web applications (WordPress, OwnCloud, Dolibarr, GEPI, Roundcube) as well as mail and a few other things were hosted mostly on one big machine. Backups for this setup were done using Rsnapshot, a